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Could seaweed be the 'fastest and least expensive' tool to fight climate change?

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Re: Could seaweed be the 'fastest and least expensive' tool to fight climate change?

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Post by svachalek »

ethanbond wrote: post #28
snapcaster wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay cool, so what is your timeline for how long will it take to stop humans from being greedy? You realize any solution that is "rich people stop being greedy" is no solution at all?

What do you think nation states are? They’re systems to prevent “most muscular and monstrous man wins everything.” We build such systems all the time and they do appear to be stable. The modern world couldn’t exist without their success.

Are you thinking of democracy or something? There are plenty of nation states that are simply "most muscular and monstrous man wins everything".

Re: Could seaweed be the 'fastest and least expensive' tool to fight climate change?

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Post by dubcanada »

rqtwteye wrote: post #38

I am skeptical of any remedy to climate change that’s not reducing emissions. Whatever you do, be it seaweed, carbon capture or other stuff, would have to be done on an insane scale to make a difference. Who knows what the side effects of growing that much seaweed would be ?

While I agree, how do you recommend we reduce emissions immediately, which is basically when it needs to happen. It seems like largely people just don't care about the environment on a "general global" scale. There are pockets are people/groups/countries that do. But on average people don't.

So that leaves really one solution, which is attempting to reduce the amount of existing emissions to stop the rise to some degree, basically prolonging the enviable.

I personally think we probably need to just let it happen so we as a species can grow, or at least grow for a few hundred years till we forget.

Re: Could seaweed be the 'fastest and least expensive' tool to fight climate change?

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Post by worik »

pvaldes wrote: post #37

No The cow burp effect is a myth. With five minutes thinking about it, is easy to see why is a no solution. I have explained here before why will not work. Most of the seaweeds are water. And the dry matter is salty. Coastal areas are extremely busy. You can't remove Honk Kong city to culture seaweeds. You can't block maritime traffic routes to culture seaweeds, or stop all commercial fishing near the shore, or ban t…

> Coastal areas are extremely busy.

No. Ports are busy.

The coast is huge. Most of it, on the wet side, is mostly not busy at all

Sea lanes are further out, land dwellers on the dry bit.

Re: Could seaweed be the 'fastest and least expensive' tool to fight climate change?

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Post by Solvency »

pvaldes wrote: post #37

No The cow burp effect is a myth. With five minutes thinking about it, is easy to see why is a no solution. I have explained here before why will not work. Most of the seaweeds are water. And the dry matter is salty. Coastal areas are extremely busy. You can't remove Honk Kong city to culture seaweeds. You can't block maritime traffic routes to culture seaweeds, or stop all commercial fishing near the shore, or ban t…

Stop CAFO. Grassfed, grass finished cows only. The US once had millions of free roaming bison. The landscape was never more fertile.

Re: Could seaweed be the 'fastest and least expensive' tool to fight climate change?

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Post by interroboink »

gregschlom wrote: post #21
Eumenes wrote: post #9

Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

gregschlom's law of headlines on HN: "Any headline on Hacker News that ends in a question mark will have a comment mentioning Betteridge's law of headlines" I'm not joking. It's been done so often that it doesn't add much to the conversation at this point. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... - over 2,000 hits.

Yet be mindful of the Ten Thousand[1] when scorning reiteration.

I, for one, had never heard of Betteridge's law (:

[1] https://xkcd.com/1053/ (though surely everyone has seen that comic zillions of times, by now)

Re: Could seaweed be the 'fastest and least expensive' tool to fight climate change?

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Post by scotty79 »

pvaldes wrote: post #37

No The cow burp effect is a myth. With five minutes thinking about it, is easy to see why is a no solution. I have explained here before why will not work. Most of the seaweeds are water. And the dry matter is salty. Coastal areas are extremely busy. You can't remove Honk Kong city to culture seaweeds. You can't block maritime traffic routes to culture seaweeds, or stop all commercial fishing near the shore, or ban t…

If you don't care about harvesting it you might want to bioengineer something that will grow on the coast of Namibia and seed it there. This coast pretty much can't be used for anything.
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