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Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by pengaru »

BizarroLand wrote: post #134
bombela wrote: post #111

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Isn't lacquer technically a sort of plastic? I could find images for Indian Brass Container to learn what it is. But I didn't find anything conclusive for Korean steel.

Lacquer is resin from trees, not plastic. I don't know if it's better for you than plastic or really anything about its chemical composition, but it's not plastic. Edit: After reading more, there is an acrylic lacquer that was developed in the 1950s that contains plastics, but outside of that, normal or traditional lacquers are typically biological in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer

My impression is that finishes free of petroleum products have become somewhat of a niche cottage industry these days.

So I wouldn't assume anything acquired finished by someone else is free of such things, regardless of whatever once-precise names they used to describe the finish.

Even when you try DIY-finish something with an eye towards food-safety it's rather challenging. E.g. the "Boiled Linseed Oil" you find on store shelves isn't actually boiled linseed oil, it's usually been adulterated with petroleum distillates and sometimes toxic "dryers" (cobalt comes to mind) to achieve the results boiling used to serve.

Here in CA the once common Turpentine which is literally distilled pine trees can't even be sold to the public due to VOCs. The stocked replacements are mostly petroleum distillates, labeled as known to cause cancer in the state.

The oil industry has infected everything

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Post by euroderf »

albrewer wrote: post #25
burke wrote: post #13

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I mean the average lifespan in the year 1000 was about 31, so we’re doing at least a few things right.

From what I've read, if you filter out children under 5 in that statistic people lived into their early 60's pretty regularly.

Yes. Stats about average lifetimes are quite misleading & useless until you filter out child mortality.

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Post by euroderf »

ch4s3 wrote: post #209
throitallaway wrote: post #185

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Is "listen to a podcast" the new "read a book"?

No, it's far worse. You can churn out junk podcast content at a pretty impressive rate, hours a day if you wanted.

Robots! We'll do it with chatty, witty robots!

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Post by digging »

Taywee wrote: post #184
digging wrote: post #173

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Changing the container your soda comes in is like sanding off splinters from the sharpened stake you're about to stab into your leg.

That's a ridiculous analogy. What about suger-free sodas, or sparkling water without even artificial sweeteners? What about people who drink soda, but still don't go over the daily recommended sugar intake, and otherwise have healthy lifestyles? I'd be willing to make two assumptions: 1. A gaping wound in your leg is probably less healthy than a moderately-high sugar consumption. 2. People who are concerned about nan…

> 1. A gaping wound in your leg is probably less healthy than a moderately-high sugar consumption.

I didn't saw they were equivalent, I just said they're similar. They're in fact two totally different categories of "unhealthy", which is why I used them. Because over a 20-year period, most stab wounds go away completely, while the effects of sugar intake tend to compound.

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Post by digging »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #240
carabiner wrote: post #234

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Not complicated. US has normalized sugar addiction and obesity. Rest of the world sees this as fucking bizarre, like pretending that cigarettes are ok as long as you don't have cancer at the moment.

A. I only drink diet coke. It contains no sugar. B. I have a genetic disorder. Diet coke contains extracts from the coca plant -- thus the name "Coca Cola" -- minus the hallucinogen cocaine. They have medicinal effects on the gut and lungs, both important systems significantly impacted by my genetic disorder. C. Before someone else jumps up to tell me I'm evil incarnate, diet coke is the only thing I consume that con…

I'm sorry that I contributed to a judgmental discussion. I was being glib and short-sighted.

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Post by washadjeffmad »

idiotsecant wrote: post #84
washadjeffmad wrote: post #77

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We've got sets of Indian brass, Korean steel, and Japanese lacquered wood food containers that we use in addition to ceramics and glass. The glass chips, and once it does we tend to avoid using it for food. Because all of these things last or compound over a lifetime, it's only expensive to be healthful if you wait.

What is with putting superfluous place names in front of things? Are you trying to sound fancy? You have steel and wood food containers.

Why even be that specific? My matter holders are made of matter.

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Post by aero-deck »

burke wrote: post #13
aero-deck wrote: post #8

and we're just soooo much smarter nowadays than we were 1000 years ago...

I mean the average lifespan in the year 1000 was about 31, so we’re doing at least a few things right.

all the correct observations about averages aside, quantity!=quality

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Post by ulnarkressty »

Everyone is talking about food containers, what about textiles - we breathe in and swallow quite a lot of dust every day, mostly coming from them. Even if you're wearing pure cotton the others may not and the office carpets and furniture are all plastic, getting torn every day.

Re: Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by rektide »

ajmurmann wrote: post #149
Night_Thastus wrote: post #16

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If you can, there are some great borosilicate glass containers out there. I use them for everything. The ones I have seal well enough that I can fill it with soup and stick it in a backpack, ride somewhere and it's fine on the other side. Thick enough to be basically unbreakable, microwavable, dishwasher-safe, etc. Don't need to worry about tomato staining either like on plastic. I've been thrilled with mine.

I love using these for things like casseroles. I can bake it directly in the container or even freeze a raw casserole and when ready, defrost and bake. One less dirty dish and no need to transfer and make sure it will fit.

Not a huge deal, but heads up from 3d ago that pyrex is now often tempered soda-lime glass & not borosilicate & is somewhat succeptible to thermal shock breakage. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36206565

PYREX all caps should be borosilicate still & mostly immune (within reason).

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