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Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
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Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#112I how wonder how well these will render Flutter desktop apps.
Edit: Wait - I realize flutter desktop apps on macOS won't have to use Flutter web at all.
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#113Extensions not running is disappointing. I would prefer my adblocker run in the app as well.
You can try Orion browser's [1] web apps which inherit the native adblocker from Orion and have more powerful options than Safari, while still running WebKit underneath. [2] [1] https://browser.kagi.com [2] https://blog.kagi.com/orion-new-features
I am an active user of Orion! I'd like Safari-based apps to be better, if only so I can also use them as such on iPad and iPhone.
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#114Can Web Apps use tabs? As in, if I command click a link, will it open in a native tab in the Web App? If they can't, then a bunch of apps I want to use as web apps will have to stay within the main browser unfortunately.
Yeah this is a real UX conundrum, because the whole windows/tabs paradigm right now is kind of confused.
Like when I use Google Docs, I've usually got several open as separate tabs in my browser. If I wanted Docs as a webapp, it wouldn't have the tabs functionality anymore, which would make it immediately useless. In the way that every IDE or Photoshop now use tabs inside the app.
We're at this place now where I actually wish tabs weren't handled by applications but rather by the OS, together with windows. Let me create a window that has three Chrome tabs, a Safari tab, a Terminal tab, and a Preview tab. Another window with a Word (installed) doc tab, an image in Photoshop tab, and several Finder tabs.
The fact that web apps can't be tabbed is almost this weird step backwards.
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#115Can Web Apps use tabs? As in, if I command click a link, will it open in a native tab in the Web App? If they can't, then a bunch of apps I want to use as web apps will have to stay within the main browser unfortunately.
Having tabs would just make it a browser. Your description leads me to believe you want a browser anyways, not a single app experience whatsoever.
Not really. Plenty of Electron apps for web apps like Notion, Figma, Linear all support tabs.
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#116Usable PWAs on macOS is great news. At the same time, I can’t help think Apple’s sudden interest in making web apps more useful has to do with visionOS. When iOS was brand new, they were talking up web apps because they needed the content. When the platform got established, Apple could tighten the screws and drive developers towards native apps by not supporting the latest web features. Now that they have an upstart…
> I can’t help think Apple’s sudden interest in making web apps more useful has to do with visionOS. Of course it does. But that has nothing to do with the cynical conspiratorial manipulation you then go on to describe.
Sure, if past behavior is no kind of prior.
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#117I don't get why it is forced to be on the Dock. I like having a super slim dock that only has open apps in it.
Really it would make more sense to be added to Launchpad but they seem to have all but forgotten about that feature
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seriously, I'm already sick of "let me send you desktop notifications!" popups.
Firefox solved this years ago. The only indication is a little icon in the address bar. https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2019/11/04/restricti...
The nasty thing that some sites will prompt you via a notification within the page. They want people who decline to do it there because it means they can try to bother you about it later (the request to the browser to show notifications was never made in this case).
The strategy with those is to accept the prompt in the page and then deny it at the browser level, but that's not something many people would know.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I can’t help think Apple’s sudden interest in making web apps more useful has to do with visionOS. Of course it does. But that has nothing to do with the cynical conspiratorial manipulation you then go on to describe.
Sure, if past behavior is no kind of prior.
Confirmation bias is never a prior.
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#120Just like all PWAs I get the appeal as a developer, but I have no clue as a user why I would ever want this.