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Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by Intermernet »

windsurfer wrote: post #123
radarsat1 wrote: post #107

You know, it's strange that Adobe hasn't considered, at this point in time, open-sourcing the Flash player. Please, hear me out, because I don't just mean this as an HH (Hopeful Hacker), but also as a well-thought-out IBD (Intelligent Business Decision): Flash has obviously been very beneficial to them in the long run. It has given them the only remaining well-controlled proprietary piece of the web. This helps them…

There are over 70 patents and licensed libraries in Flash. It would basically be impossible to get those companies to agree to open source and give away all their IP. For a while, Adobe was paying over a dollar per Android Flash install because some of their licenses only applied to desktop. So one might say they should open source the core of Flash, the JIT compiler and virtual machine, and not the parts that are li…

Exactly, http://osmf.org anyone?

EDIT: Make link a link :-)

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by rsynnott »

drats wrote: post #24
ecaron wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adobe killing AIR for Linux didn't impact/slow AIR's growth in the slightest, so I would have to assume this change will also have zero impact.

Can't tell if you are serious. Who uses AIR? I've never seen it.

Certain Twitter clients. That seems to be about it. :)

(It's sometimes used for in-house stuff, but then what isn't?)

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by psquid »

figital wrote: post #85

To my fellow developers, please don't develop anything else for Flash. Thanks! (Within the next year Google will have you go full screen in GTK inside Chrome/Debian ... then that's your desktop ... Adobe is hedging this decent bet .... BARF!)

> Within the next year Google will have you go full screen in GTK inside Chrome/Debian ... then that's your desktop

Source? Or is that just conjecture?

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by lazugod »

jrockway wrote: post #155
cookiecaper wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, YT is one among a handful of exceptions that serve HTML 5 to a desktop browser. That doesn't really change the general argument -- almost all sites are not going to give HTML 5 video as an option to desktop clients.

I didn't realize anybody used other sites for video :)

They somewhat appear to want to: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/21/apple-google-col...

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by jrockway »

lazugod wrote: post #184
jrockway wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't realize anybody used other sites for video :)

They somewhat appear to want to: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/21/apple-google-col...

I don't think this is "Fuck Google" so much as it is "Fuck people uploading stuff through this interface."

If I write some software that costs $999 and only works on HP/UX, it's not "Fuck Microsoft" or "Fuck Apple". It's "Fuck me."

I think they call it cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by ruediger »

rmc wrote: post #176
ruediger wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In order to "fully open source" it, they would have to include an open source H264/mp4 decoder. Which would probably not be allowed by everyone who owns H264. Alas. There are existing open source implementations of H264. Even the best encoder (x264) is open source. But I guess there are license issues with third party code/libraries used in Flash.

Yes there are H264 software that is released under an open source copyright licence. However the implementation might still be breech patents and might still be illegal to use. It's a shame that a complete clean room open source implementation (e.g. x264) might still be illegal to use in some territories.

That's just the question of having a license. Not whether the implementation is open source.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by yuhong »

windsurfer wrote: post #123
radarsat1 wrote: post #107

You know, it's strange that Adobe hasn't considered, at this point in time, open-sourcing the Flash player. Please, hear me out, because I don't just mean this as an HH (Hopeful Hacker), but also as a well-thought-out IBD (Intelligent Business Decision): Flash has obviously been very beneficial to them in the long run. It has given them the only remaining well-controlled proprietary piece of the web. This helps them…

There are over 70 patents and licensed libraries in Flash. It would basically be impossible to get those companies to agree to open source and give away all their IP. For a while, Adobe was paying over a dollar per Android Flash install because some of their licenses only applied to desktop. So one might say they should open source the core of Flash, the JIT compiler and virtual machine, and not the parts that are li…

If you visit the http://crash-stats.mozilla.org site, you may have noticed the obfuscated Flash symbols starting with F followed by some random number.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by windsurfer »

yuhong wrote: post #187
windsurfer wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are over 70 patents and licensed libraries in Flash. It would basically be impossible to get those companies to agree to open source and give away all their IP. For a while, Adobe was paying over a dollar per Android Flash install because some of their licenses only applied to desktop. So one might say they should open source the core of Flash, the JIT compiler and virtual machine, and not the parts that are li…

If you visit the http://crash-stats.mozilla.org site, you may have noticed the obfuscated Flash symbols starting with F followed by some random number.

...okay? What is your point?

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by yuhong »

windsurfer wrote: post #188
yuhong wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you visit the http://crash-stats.mozilla.org site, you may have noticed the obfuscated Flash symbols starting with F followed by some random number.

...okay? What is your point?

Why do you think the symbols had to be obfuscated?
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