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FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by runjake »

chrchr wrote: post #21
ksimukka wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear what you are saying. IMO, the mask and covid measures in Portland feels to me to be more political based. I really don’t understand the logic in America when it comes to the current thinking about covid measures. You could say I have a Scandinavian perspective to this, but here in Norway everyone listened and trusted to what the government recommended and/or mandated. It has been a little more than a year sinc…

There are no government mandates in effect here in Portland either. Any masking/testing rules in place for the conference are due to the event’s policies.

Government mandates or recommendations[1] for such, at this point.

1. https://www.oregon.gov/oha/covid19/Pages/Masks.aspx

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by lotsofpulp »

ksimukka wrote: post #19
rapnie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my country it is like covid never happened. Yet, there are quite a few people for whom covid is still a threat. People with long covid for instance or respiratory illnesses. There are Free Software conferences that take that into account, as part of inclusion.

I hear what you are saying. IMO, the mask and covid measures in Portland feels to me to be more political based. I really don’t understand the logic in America when it comes to the current thinking about covid measures. You could say I have a Scandinavian perspective to this, but here in Norway everyone listened and trusted to what the government recommended and/or mandated. It has been a little more than a year sinc…

> I really don’t understand the logic in America when it comes to the current thinking about covid measures.

It is not America. It is a very small subset of the 330M+ people living here. I would venture to say 90%+ have not thought about Covid in a long time.

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by qbasic_forever »

pantalaimon wrote: post #6

Still requiring masks & tests is kind of odd in 2023

Why is it odd? The official CDC guidance now calls out explicit air change guidance and masking if that can't be met or a population is vulnerable. Why should vulnerable people be excluded from this conference, because that's what you're really implying by not masking or taking precautions.

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by away271828 »

chrchr wrote: post #21
ksimukka wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear what you are saying. IMO, the mask and covid measures in Portland feels to me to be more political based. I really don’t understand the logic in America when it comes to the current thinking about covid measures. You could say I have a Scandinavian perspective to this, but here in Norway everyone listened and trusted to what the government recommended and/or mandated. It has been a little more than a year sinc…

There are no government mandates in effect here in Portland either. Any masking/testing rules in place for the conference are due to the event’s policies.

Right. And, given who is running this event, there is some backstory that makes it unsurprising that it's trying to be especially accommodating of people who are vulnerable.

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by steviedotboston »

I attended a conference in Portland in 2022. The conference itself was fine, but Portland was a wreck. There were homeless encampments all over the place, open fires right on the sidewalks, needles and trash all over the place, boarded up buildings right in the middle of downtown. It was just bizarre and I felt pretty uncomfortable unless I was walking with other people.

I don't see why anyone would choose Portland as a conference location now. The city is in really bad shape, it's just not the same place it was even just a few years ago.

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by steviedotboston »

anon291 wrote: post #9
pantalaimon wrote: post #6

Still requiring masks & tests is kind of odd in 2023

Thanks for calling this out. I live right near by and was on the verge of payment, but I'm not wasting my time with that.

I don't know about this conference, but some conferences with policies like this don't really bother enforcing them. It's 2023, do they really think they're going to get anything close to 100% compliance with a mask mandate? And what will they do if someone isn't wearing a mask? Most likely just politely ask you to put one on and then walk away. I highly doubt they are going to have some kind of punitive policy in place. Nobody wants to deal with that.

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by angelgonzales »

steviedotboston wrote: post #35

I attended a conference in Portland in 2022. The conference itself was fine, but Portland was a wreck. There were homeless encampments all over the place, open fires right on the sidewalks, needles and trash all over the place, boarded up buildings right in the middle of downtown. It was just bizarre and I felt pretty uncomfortable unless I was walking with other people. I don't see why anyone would choose Portland a…

I live here. Do not leave anything in your vehicle or it will be broken into! The springtime brings so much theft and crime from what I’ve personally seen. If you go downtown ~50% of blocks have evidence of recent break-ins. It happened to me a few weeks ago right when the weather was getting warmer, a very apparent rise in crime this season.

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by ghaff »

steviedotboston wrote: post #35

I attended a conference in Portland in 2022. The conference itself was fine, but Portland was a wreck. There were homeless encampments all over the place, open fires right on the sidewalks, needles and trash all over the place, boarded up buildings right in the middle of downtown. It was just bizarre and I felt pretty uncomfortable unless I was walking with other people. I don't see why anyone would choose Portland a…

Based on what a few people have told me, I'm mildly regretting booking a few days in Portland prior to spending a week out by Mt. Hood. I initially wrote it off as people not familiar with the realities of the downtown areas of a lot of West Coast cities. But it sounds as if Portland may be worse than others.

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by no_wizard »

steviedotboston wrote: post #35

I attended a conference in Portland in 2022. The conference itself was fine, but Portland was a wreck. There were homeless encampments all over the place, open fires right on the sidewalks, needles and trash all over the place, boarded up buildings right in the middle of downtown. It was just bizarre and I felt pretty uncomfortable unless I was walking with other people. I don't see why anyone would choose Portland a…

They just finally passed a ban on camping in the streets. I think given proper enforcement we may finally see some of this start to get better

Re: FOSSY 2023, Portland: Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference

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Post by pklausler »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #4
detaro wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the first instance of this conference, which they intend to run yearly.

Ah. That makes sense. Maybe it would be more clear as: "The first annual Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference" Instead of: "The first Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference" Putting "annual" in the title makes that meaning / context more clear to me.

The word "Yearly" is already in the title. Adding "annual" seems redundant.
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