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Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by dclowd9901 »

neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

I keep saying it but it would be phenomenal if glass container recycling became an earnest effort. I’m just not sure we actually have the infrastructure to support such an endeavor. Even something like carting a load of groceries out to your car and loading them up suddenly becomes quite a lift.

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Post by actionfromafar »

balaji1 wrote: post #58
actionfromafar wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

U don’t recycle plastic, you burn it in a furnace. Spread the word.

Burning seems to be the only good idea over long-term. But someone on HN explained that there are some toxic byproducts to burning plastic. Dioxins for one. So we need some way to capture those waste and store it along with the nuclear waste lol.

There are such capture devices and they are already in use to burn trash.

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Post by deelowe »

nahstra wrote: post #67
deelowe wrote: post #51

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One of my favorite quotes is: "A problem is a challenge with a least one workable solution. A dilemma is challenge with multiple choices, all equally bad." If we eliminated all PFAS chemicals today, society would collapse. What's the point of eliminating PFAS chemicals to improve life expectancy if the very act of doing so would cause a famine?

What products use PFAS whose absence would cause society to collapse? If you look at the major sources of PFAS by 3M, it's not like these were essential products. Here's a random list from wisconsin.gov: Cleaning products. Water-resistant fabrics, such as rain jackets, umbrellas and tents. Grease-resistant paper. Nonstick cookware. Personal care products, like shampoo, dental floss, nail polish, and eye makeup. Stain…

Anything containing "rubber."

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Post by bilekas »

actionfromafar wrote: post #44
bilekas wrote: post #42

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I would have assumed (probably incorrectly) that the 'seal' which would come in contact with the glass & liquids would be a type of silicone lid, while it could be considered a type of plastic, if its a good food grade lid, I would imagine it's a bit better ? Ironically though silicone is much harder to recycle though.

U don’t recycle plastic, you burn it in a furnace. Spread the word.

Everytime I think I can do even something small to help, more clever people come along and ruin it!

Does remind me of a cool tech about plasma arc recycling.

https://www.explainthatstuff.com/plasma-arc-recycling.html

It can basically recycle anything into energy from what I briefly read.

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Post by dTal »

vsareto wrote: post #45
neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

Purchased drinks taste different in different containers (Coke in plastic vs glass vs aluminum), so I’m on board with food.

Coke in "aluminum" is actually coke in plastic; the cans are lined.

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Post by balaji1 »

nologic01 wrote: post #57
JR1427 wrote: post #47

It would be worth checking that the concentrations of microplastics used in this study are of a similar concentration to those found naturally. Otherwise the research is not very meaningful.

Could you elaborate on naturally found microplastics?

good one haha... nologic but savage... (commenter's handle is nologic, this is supposed to be a pun)

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Post by washadjeffmad »

neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

We've got sets of Indian brass, Korean steel, and Japanese lacquered wood food containers that we use in addition to ceramics and glass. The glass chips, and once it does we tend to avoid using it for food.

Because all of these things last or compound over a lifetime, it's only expensive to be healthful if you wait.

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Post by kingkawn »

Grazester wrote: post #24
JLCarveth wrote: post #20

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Aren't the lids still plastic? I've never seen ones with glass lids.

And that is fine. We aren't going to be taking our spoons and forks and scraping the food from the plastic lip as we would with the container nor is the lid in contact with food should we warm it in the microware.

real confident bout that, kind of like everyone who said that the rest of the container being plastic was acceptable before...

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Post by DubiousPusher »

deelowe wrote: post #51
EGreg wrote: post #30

Sorry people, but you can't stop it: 1. https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/04/11/how-much-plastic-d... 2. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/24/micropla... 3. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/15/winds-ca... Because humanity and capitalism's incentives are just wrong. Bottling companies like Coca Cola and Snapple have long switched to plastic bottles, and externalized the cost to the env…

One of my favorite quotes is: "A problem is a challenge with a least one workable solution. A dilemma is challenge with multiple choices, all equally bad." If we eliminated all PFAS chemicals today, society would collapse. What's the point of eliminating PFAS chemicals to improve life expectancy if the very act of doing so would cause a famine?

> IF we eliminated all PFAS chemicals today, society would collapse.

I think this is a failure of imagination. The modern world, largely as we appreciate it today, existed in 1940 in Europe and the U.S. That is well before the widespread deployment of plastics. It was a world in which everyone, including the very rich did with a little less but still, a fairly high quality of life.

The only question that separates then from today, is whether we can scale that kind of material to the much larger global middle class.

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Post by infogulch »

balaji1 wrote: post #58
actionfromafar wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

U don’t recycle plastic, you burn it in a furnace. Spread the word.

Burning seems to be the only good idea over long-term. But someone on HN explained that there are some toxic byproducts to burning plastic. Dioxins for one. So we need some way to capture those waste and store it along with the nuclear waste lol.

You just need a catalytic converter.
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