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Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Are you telling me that Reddit’s accessibility is so bad that there exist popular third-party apps whose only purpose is to make Reddit more accessible?

Yes. RedditForBlind, Dystopia, and RedReader isn't really for accessibility but is the most accessible on Android, oh and Luna for Reddit.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Given just how awful Reddit's own UI is, one could argue _all_ third party clients are accessibility-focused.

I had to scroll too far down for this, exactly what my first thought was. The web page and native app are just not that great once you've worked with Apollo and some of the other apps like baconreader come to mind.

If I use new reddit on mobile or iPad, the whole thing just crashes fairly quickly. It’s the only site that does that.

Without old.reddit I actually cannot use the site unless I confine it to a desktop perhaps.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Most subs are going dark for 2 days, which is an inconvenience that will be soon forgotten. The subs that try to stay dark permanently will have their mods replaced.

That kind of assumes there's an endless stream of quality moderators willing to work for free, just waiting for their turn.

No, it correctly assumes there's an endless stream of people wanting to be moderators so they can wield the power that comes with that.

Whether that be by being a quality mod or by abusing it to silence people they disagree with is irrelevant.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Most subs are going dark for 2 days, which is an inconvenience that will be soon forgotten. The subs that try to stay dark permanently will have their mods replaced.

any sub can remain private, and only allow posts from a select few, these subs could simply boot everybody and only let a small core team in and post regular updates so the sub is active, then Reddit can't just give it to someone else, not without an even bigger exodus. plus you can't just get a new mod team, especially for subs like askhistorians. They're very thorough, use many tools themselves that use the API to…

You're right they could keep the sub alive, but if they don't want to moderate anymore and their blackout failed to get the change they wanted, why would they bother?

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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> The relationship between Reddit and it's community is very delicate, so it seems pretty silly for Reddit to decide to crash it into a wall shortly before their IPO. They might get the IPO pop they want - I doubt it, they're smashing the long term viability of the company. I'm guessing someone looked at the data and figured that losing x% of users is worth it if they can extract an extra y% profit from the remaining…

There's a reason Digg has been mentioned so much around this story. Reddit ate Digg's lunch because Digg made bad decisions. Reddit is making the same flavor of bad decisions and their lunch will be promptly eaten by someone else. It's obviously a losing strategy. Everyone can see it except for the greedy execs seeing dollar signs rather than the real world.

If anyone else is like me, I'm just looking for the next community so that I can ditch reddit. I'm looking for a site that can maintain free speech,limit the bot noise,draw in real users and foster a real community spirit and attitude without selling out to corporatism, over moderation, and overall corrupt tendencies.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Reddit really is desperate for this IPO isn't it. This pricing decision is a total debacle. They're clearly going to try and tell a story about how their data set is massively valuable for AI (it isn't) and that they've got it under lock and key (it's already been crawled by every major player in AI) so that they can get a totally unrealistic valuation at IPO. It makes sense, imagine how incredible it would be if you…

Makes me wonder if their IPO will be a flop as a result. If you're a registered investor that would be part of the IPO, I would assume that you are looking at public discourse in addition to whatever IPO docs Reddit might give you. So what does it say about a company about to IPO that's telling you everything is ok on their whitepapers and docs but you look online and see a full blown revolt by their userbase.

I hope Reddit has a similar IPO experience that WeWork had, they deserve it.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a reason Digg has been mentioned so much around this story. Reddit ate Digg's lunch because Digg made bad decisions. Reddit is making the same flavor of bad decisions and their lunch will be promptly eaten by someone else. It's obviously a losing strategy. Everyone can see it except for the greedy execs seeing dollar signs rather than the real world.

If anyone else is like me, I'm just looking for the next community so that I can ditch reddit. I'm looking for a site that can maintain free speech,limit the bot noise,draw in real users and foster a real community spirit and attitude without selling out to corporatism, over moderation, and overall corrupt tendencies.

I’m trying out federated via lemmy (lemmy.ml, lemmy.one, self-host, whatever) which interoperates with mastodon etc. If somebody were to start a larger lemmy server and do Reddit scraping for even just the next couple days, it would probably gain traction pretty quickly. But also that sounds expensive for an enthusiast

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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The way reddit seems to be unable to implement useful and complex new features leads me to wonder what their development practices are like.

It's like they can only create simple new things, but more complicated stuff is beyond them. Complex features like moderator tools, rate limiting, accessibility, a working video player, and a rich text editor.

Are they only hiring the cheapest least experienced developers? Too few devs, or too many managers?

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Most subs are going dark for 2 days, which is an inconvenience that will be soon forgotten. The subs that try to stay dark permanently will have their mods replaced.

That kind of assumes there's an endless stream of quality moderators willing to work for free, just waiting for their turn.

> "quality moderators"

Reddit admins will just install the generic supermoderators that already "moderate" 300 default subs and call it a day. IPO line goes up, baby!

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