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Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Are you telling me that Reddit’s accessibility is so bad that there exist popular third-party apps whose only purpose is to make Reddit more accessible?

And how do you differentiate it from the primary mission of every single other reddit app? It's the entire point of having apps...

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Reddit's ideal scenario would involve its users migrating to other platforms while preserving its archived content. Its community was once thriving, but the mismanagement ruined it. Despite reportedly having thousands of employees, Reddit's excessive hiring and ambitious expansion led to wasteful spending. A platform with basic features like Reddit could easily be maintained by a team of fewer than 100 staff members…

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Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Reddit really is desperate for this IPO isn't it. This pricing decision is a total debacle. They're clearly going to try and tell a story about how their data set is massively valuable for AI (it isn't) and that they've got it under lock and key (it's already been crawled by every major player in AI) so that they can get a totally unrealistic valuation at IPO. It makes sense, imagine how incredible it would be if you…

> The relationship between Reddit and it's community is very delicate, so it seems pretty silly for Reddit to decide to crash it into a wall shortly before their IPO. They might get the IPO pop they want - I doubt it, they're smashing the long term viability of the company. I'm guessing someone looked at the data and figured that losing x% of users is worth it if they can extract an extra y% profit from the remaining…

There's a reason Digg has been mentioned so much around this story. Reddit ate Digg's lunch because Digg made bad decisions. Reddit is making the same flavor of bad decisions and their lunch will be promptly eaten by someone else. It's obviously a losing strategy. Everyone can see it except for the greedy execs seeing dollar signs rather than the real world.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

#54

Stupid question but I’m out of the loop here. What’s the main beef with the Reddit site and app? Is it just accessibility and moderation tools or something else? I do use RES in desktop, but I mostly use it via the official mobile app these days. I used to miss old.Reddit.com but now I’m rather indifferent.

As a long time user, and moderator, I do everything via old.reddit (and the only additional thing is mod toolbox, which I could live without) on a proper computer. I just can't fathom any meaningful use of Reddit via a phone app. To me that's as insane as trying to read a novel on your phone or watch a movie. Simply does not compute to me.

I watch movies, read novels, and even code on my phone but I refuse to use the reddit app. It's that bad.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Reddit's ideal scenario would involve its users migrating to other platforms while preserving its archived content. Its community was once thriving, but the mismanagement ruined it. Despite reportedly having thousands of employees, Reddit's excessive hiring and ambitious expansion led to wasteful spending. A platform with basic features like Reddit could easily be maintained by a team of fewer than 100 staff members…

I am certain that is not the narrative reddit is selling to potential investors because that is a narrative that does not maximize profit.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

#56
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Reddit really is desperate for this IPO isn't it. This pricing decision is a total debacle. They're clearly going to try and tell a story about how their data set is massively valuable for AI (it isn't) and that they've got it under lock and key (it's already been crawled by every major player in AI) so that they can get a totally unrealistic valuation at IPO. It makes sense, imagine how incredible it would be if you…

> try and tell a story about how their data set is massively valuable for AI (it isn't) How would it not be valuable?

It's valuable to train models. It's just not valuable to sell, as it can be accessed freely, and has been dumped multiple times already and used to train models.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

#57
Reading through the list of concessions and explanations attributed to Steve Huffman that Reddit is currently sending to subreddit moderators, I saw a couple of things that struck as almost certainly untrue or at least exaggerated.

I don't think Reddit is approaching this in good faith.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most subs are going dark for 2 days, which is an inconvenience that will be soon forgotten. The subs that try to stay dark permanently will have their mods replaced.

any sub can remain private, and only allow posts from a select few, these subs could simply boot everybody and only let a small core team in and post regular updates so the sub is active, then Reddit can't just give it to someone else, not without an even bigger exodus. plus you can't just get a new mod team, especially for subs like askhistorians. They're very thorough, use many tools themselves that use the API to…

They don't need to call Elon, there are plenty of far-right radical incubator subreddits they could ask for assistance that would give them the same advice.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

#59

Stupid question but I’m out of the loop here. What’s the main beef with the Reddit site and app? Is it just accessibility and moderation tools or something else? I do use RES in desktop, but I mostly use it via the official mobile app these days. I used to miss old.Reddit.com but now I’m rather indifferent.

My beef is more that Apollo is an all-time great iOS app. It’s a perfect execution of Apple’s design language and it lets me experience Reddit the way I want to.

Re: Reddit will exempt accessibility-focused apps from unpopular API pricing changes

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Reddit really is desperate for this IPO isn't it. This pricing decision is a total debacle. They're clearly going to try and tell a story about how their data set is massively valuable for AI (it isn't) and that they've got it under lock and key (it's already been crawled by every major player in AI) so that they can get a totally unrealistic valuation at IPO. It makes sense, imagine how incredible it would be if you…

I dont think the smoke and mirrors is going work any more... Maybe, but it appears me we are seeing the business cycle return to first principles and things like user engagement, user growth, Daily Active Users, etc that were all used to cover up bad business models and non-profitability in the age of free money are over... an IPO that does not have reddit turning an actual profit (not made up API Money in the future…

That's probably why they're scrambling....they missed the peak of the bubble
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