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Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by jhawleypeters »

tasuki wrote: post #70
jhawleypeters wrote: post #37

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> A giant car is probably the most harmful-to-others luxury indulgence you could pick Some people are simply refusing to harm themselves when they choose a large vehicle. Getting in and out of a "regular" sized car routinely injures me. The injuries are painful, immobilize me for weeks at a time, and occur several times per year. I also know several people for whom being in a compact car causes anxiety or panic. Do c…

> Getting in and out of a "regular" sized car routinely injures me. The injuries are painful, immobilize me for weeks at a time, and occur several times per year. How does it injure you?

I'm tall. The doors are too low to the ground and small, so I injure my back getting in and out.

Edit, more context: I've routinely gotten in and out of small sedans all my life. When I was younger, this wasn't much of a problem, but now that I'm in my thirties, it's become very frustrating and dibilitating.

Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by jhawleypeters »

dijit wrote: post #63
jhawleypeters wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A giant car is probably the most harmful-to-others luxury indulgence you could pick Some people are simply refusing to harm themselves when they choose a large vehicle. Getting in and out of a "regular" sized car routinely injures me. The injuries are painful, immobilize me for weeks at a time, and occur several times per year. I also know several people for whom being in a compact car causes anxiety or panic. Do c…

> Getting in and out of a "regular" sized car routinely injures me. The injuries are painful, immobilize me for weeks at a time, and occur several times per year. Seek medical assistance, immediately. This is not a joke, I am not intending to offend you- you genuinely should seek medical assistance as in: right now. > I also know several people for whom being in a compact car causes anxiety or panic. Now I will inten…

> Humans without cars should feel even more anxiety and panic!

I mean, pedestrians do, right? I guess it depends on the local driving culture.

My best friend is blind, and this is precisely how he feels trying to navigate the world.

But yeah, living in America, car ownership seems unavoidable for most people in most areas.

Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by jhawleypeters »

dijit wrote: post #63
jhawleypeters wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A giant car is probably the most harmful-to-others luxury indulgence you could pick Some people are simply refusing to harm themselves when they choose a large vehicle. Getting in and out of a "regular" sized car routinely injures me. The injuries are painful, immobilize me for weeks at a time, and occur several times per year. I also know several people for whom being in a compact car causes anxiety or panic. Do c…

> Getting in and out of a "regular" sized car routinely injures me. The injuries are painful, immobilize me for weeks at a time, and occur several times per year. Seek medical assistance, immediately. This is not a joke, I am not intending to offend you- you genuinely should seek medical assistance as in: right now. > I also know several people for whom being in a compact car causes anxiety or panic. Now I will inten…

> Seek medical assistance, immediately.

It's not a medical problem.

I'm just tall and small cars are the wrong size for my body. Like choosing a piece of clothing, the solution is to choose a vehicle that fits my body.

I mean, I could try to have surgery to change my height, but that's wrongheaded, right?

Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by dijit »

jhawleypeters wrote: post #73
dijit wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Getting in and out of a "regular" sized car routinely injures me. The injuries are painful, immobilize me for weeks at a time, and occur several times per year. Seek medical assistance, immediately. This is not a joke, I am not intending to offend you- you genuinely should seek medical assistance as in: right now. > I also know several people for whom being in a compact car causes anxiety or panic. Now I will inten…

> Seek medical assistance, immediately. It's not a medical problem. I'm just tall and small cars are the wrong size for my body. Like choosing a piece of clothing, the solution is to choose a vehicle that fits my body. I mean, I could try to have surgery to change my height, but that's wrongheaded, right?

My friend is 6’4” and drives a Honda fit without issue.

There is definitely middle ground - frankly, I don’t believe you are interested in hearing it because you have already decided that obscenely large cars that kill children easily are the only way you can feel like you're experiencing comfort.

Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by willcipriano »

lmm wrote: post #17
willcipriano wrote: post #14

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> A giant car is probably the most harmful-to-others luxury indulgence you could pick International travel. People need to get to work, nobody needs to backpack through Europe to "find themselves" (besides perhaps Europeans).

> International travel. Probably less harmful; the per-year CO2 emissions are similar (depending how long your commute is and how much travel you do), and travel has fewer of the other negative externalities (taking up road space and city space, killing people directly). > People need to get to work, nobody needs to backpack through Europe Perhaps, but I don't see how putting out an extra n tonnes of CO2 by driving a…

If the co2 emissions are similar and both are just for fun I don't see how you ethically justify the one and not the other. This looks elitist and classist.

Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by jhawleypeters »

dijit wrote: post #74
jhawleypeters wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seek medical assistance, immediately. It's not a medical problem. I'm just tall and small cars are the wrong size for my body. Like choosing a piece of clothing, the solution is to choose a vehicle that fits my body. I mean, I could try to have surgery to change my height, but that's wrongheaded, right?

My friend is 6’4” and drives a Honda fit without issue. There is definitely middle ground - frankly, I don’t believe you are interested in hearing it because you have already decided that obscenely large cars that kill children easily are the only way you can feel like you're experiencing comfort.

My position is that large vehicles can be accessibility tools. It's okay for people to need and use such things.

The way you react to that is pretty rude.

Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by belmont_sup »

ep103 wrote: post #53
physicsguy wrote: post #45

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Way less than people think they’re going to. When I started my current job, the project was veering into microservices hell by a team that did not understand how to build a web application. A rough back of envelope calculation of potential customer base and what the product was aimed at (B2B in renewables) told me that even with world domination, the backend of the application would at most have 50k active users ever…

Yup, this is what I'm working on right now. 10 microservices to support a 2 page static html webpage. We "needed" microservices for "Scalability", but we will never have more than a few hundred users at a time. We can't have simple logging of our services, because all logs have to go to Loki, and Loki only does full text search. So first, learn how to query with Grafana's querying language in order to do any searches…

I can feel the raw anger and exasperation. Well done.

Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by rbanffy »

dijit wrote: post #74
jhawleypeters wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seek medical assistance, immediately. It's not a medical problem. I'm just tall and small cars are the wrong size for my body. Like choosing a piece of clothing, the solution is to choose a vehicle that fits my body. I mean, I could try to have surgery to change my height, but that's wrongheaded, right?

My friend is 6’4” and drives a Honda fit without issue. There is definitely middle ground - frankly, I don’t believe you are interested in hearing it because you have already decided that obscenely large cars that kill children easily are the only way you can feel like you're experiencing comfort.

I’m 6’ and I barely fit inside a Lotus. The solution, for me, is simple: I don’t have one.

But sustaining so significant injuries from getting into a car larger than a Lotus or a Mini Cooper is concerning enough to warrant medical attention - we simply shouldn’t get damaged so easily.

Re: Programming culture in the late aughts (2022)

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Post by rbanffy »

jhawleypeters wrote: post #71
tasuki wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Getting in and out of a "regular" sized car routinely injures me. The injuries are painful, immobilize me for weeks at a time, and occur several times per year. How does it injure you?

I'm tall. The doors are too low to the ground and small, so I injure my back getting in and out. Edit, more context: I've routinely gotten in and out of small sedans all my life. When I was younger, this wasn't much of a problem, but now that I'm in my thirties, it's become very frustrating and dibilitating.

I agree with the advice to see a doctor. The thirties is way too early to have such issues. They are starting to me and I’m in my mid-fifties.

Unless your small car is a Mazda Miata or some other triumph of miniaturisation, it shouldn’t happen.

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