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Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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As best I can tell from perusing the thread: - The Asahi Linux team was "blocking" links to their site from Hacker News by detecting HN as the referrer and redirecting those users to Google. - HN added the "noreferrer" tag to at least one of the links, which tells the browser to not pass the referrer string. This means the Asahi Linux "block," which relies on the referrer information, does not work. - Asahi Linux tea…

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Edit: Sorry, I posted the wrong link for the Asahi X Wayland rant. https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110354541574112092

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Your statement makes no sense and is not supported by the links you posted

Thanks for pointing it out. I used the wrong link, but, it's too late to edit.

This is what I was thinking of, re WDS, https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110354541574112092

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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My opinion: HN has a particular culture and attitude to discussion that can be grating for non-users. One example: HNers tend to approach topics as if they have a solid grasp on the context of a matter, and are often negative, hence dang's plea against 'middlebrow dismissal.' Another example: the common practice of leading rebuttals to a comment with "No. \n" While that's OK here, there are a lot of people who would…

The other HN tell I’ve started seeing in work chats is excessive italics. I’m not five, I know the gravity of what you’re writing. For example, often HN users need to scold their readers into a hair-splitting debate around semantics . The other one I’ve seen is pretend-gaslighting-as-begging-the-question: “Can we all stop pretending that object-oriented programming is an efficient way to build software?”

Yeah you’ve sold me. I’m out of here.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Do you hate jwz, too? Because I assure you, if you follow a link from HN to jwz.org (without removing the referer header), you will get much worse than a Google redirect.

let's try: https://jwz.org http://jwz.org https://www.jwz.org/blog/2023/06/and-its-a-great-looking-sku... edit: strange, it works perfectly for me.

Your link anchor tags have `rel="nofollow noreferrer"`

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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I think it's worth a little self-reflection on the part of the rest of the commentariat here about why someone would ask that we leave them alone. It's hard for me to see this as anything other than spite, in a situation that needs a little bit of grace.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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"In doing that they usually jump to the most uncharitable, horrible reasons they can imagine for why we might have done so." So you do understand why one wouldn't want to deal with a significant part of the user base here given that they behave in such ways, and thus why one might want to avoid any traffic coming from here, but feel that it's not your job to deal with those users, because then their behavior would af…

I haven't expressed myself clearly enough if that's a possible response to what I tried to say there. Unfortunately I'm at a workshop today and not free to take the hours I normally would to go over the explanation until it's clearly understandable. I only have a few minutes of break time. Perhaps it would have been better not to try in the first place, under such circumstnaces; but I'm not going to delete my GP comm…

I've read it a couple times and it's hard for me to disagree with them. It sounds an awful lot like you're saying 'if we ban the domain, people will yell at me and get mad,' with the implication of 'and I would rather they yell and get mad at someone else.'

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Banning the domain actually doesn't work because people see that the domain is banned, observe that there's nothing wrong with the domain, and then accuse us of being unfair and hostile to the author/site. In doing that they usually jump to the most uncharitable, horrible reasons they can imagine for why we might have done so. It doesn't work to say "but they asked us to ban their site" because there's no reliable wa…

Please don't and just keep the noreferrer, but if you do insist on banning the domain then you could perhaps add an explanation that it was at the request of the site author. Preferably with a link to this post or something else showcasing the insanity.

Why is it that you characterize their view as 'insanity'?

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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post #16

As best I can tell from perusing the thread: - The Asahi Linux team was "blocking" links to their site from Hacker News by detecting HN as the referrer and redirecting those users to Google. - HN added the "noreferrer" tag to at least one of the links, which tells the browser to not pass the referrer string. This means the Asahi Linux "block," which relies on the referrer information, does not work. - Asahi Linux tea…

This is enough to make me never touch Asahi Linux. What a childish game for a Linux distro? How dare someone link to their website without their approval...because that is totally how the internet works?? ffs.

Agreed. I like to try out different Linux distributions every so often. After seeing this immature tantrum, I wouldn't go near Asahi Linux.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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What you CAN do and what you SHOULD do are often different things, and that difference is something that the HN crowd would do well to reflect on. Asahi doesn't want attention from HN. It's a small project about hardware that most HN commenters seem to hold in contempt anyway. Why not just honor the request?

Contempt? I've seen nothing but praise about the Asahi from HN. Its also the only place I've ever heard people talk about it.

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