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Real quick, how do I challenge a transaction I made with Bitcoin?
You can't, but the model is different. If Bitcoin transactions involved giving your private key to every entity you wanted to transact with (like how credit card numbers work), then this would be a problem.
Proposed SEC order to freeze, repatriate Binance.US assets
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#382This SEC action has nothing to do with Binance being a crypto exchange. It has to do with it being an exchange, a broker, an asset custodian, a market maker, and a trader for its own account, all at once, with no regulation. Sam Bankman-Fried was lobbying Congress to make that legal. That plan went nowhere. Binance just assumed they could get away doing all that. Worse, the SEC has already found large transfers out o…
The SEC press release (https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-101) includes a section titled "UNREGISTERED OFFER AND SALE OF CRYPTO ASSETS".
The SEC also filed https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-102 against coinbase.
The coinbase one makes it much more clear that yes, in fact, just being a crypto exchange is the same as being an illegal unregistered securities exchange, and no, the SEC will not let you actually register as one (coinbase has tried).
> This is not a new crypto-related problem. Stockbrokers routinely go to jail for misuse of customer funds.
It being illegal to run ponzi schemes and sell unlicensed securities is not new, but it very much is a crypto problem. The fact that there are currently zero crypto exchanges that are licensed with the SEC, and the SEC's filing against coinbase, together make it clear that it is not legal to operate a crypto exchange in the US.
It is possible to legally operate a stock brokerage. It is not so for crypto. That's a notable difference.
Re: Proposed SEC order to freeze, repatriate Binance.US assets
#383The SEC was meeting with SBF and failed to protect US citizens who sent money to FTX. So far Binance hasn't pulled a ponzi scam (they existed before Alameda/FTX and have never stolen anyone's money). So basically the SEC failed to protect people from that ponzi scammer boy SBF was, but they're going after the like of Binance and Coinbase, who, so far, never stole a cent from anyone?
But this is HN and the people here are smart but lack the intellectual courage and honesty to challenge their beliefs, so they'll believe in things like "SEC trying to save the common investor" despite obvious examples like 2008, FTX, etc.
They apply the same reasoning to war for example, they'll never talk about how comparable the US aggression on Iraq is to the Russian aggression on Ukraine, and will call you a Russian sympathiser if you point this out.
This is expected and completely natural, humans will always find reasons why their actions are good and general just ways to explain their behavior, I think there are experiments that even show it on the biological level when they cut off the right from the left hemisphere.
The SEC's attack on Binance and CB has been part of a multi year attack on cryptocurrencies, everyone here will criticize crypto really hard but never the fact the fed printed huge amounts of USD, causing inflation not only for US citizens but for every country that relies on the US for food and other imports (that are done in USD, so for example country X's reserve in USD is worth less now, and US exporters raise their prices, etc.)
The people here will go to extreme lengths of mental gymnastics to say that the inflation wasn't caused at all by money printing but by covid disrupting the supply chain and by the Russian war.
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#384Earlier quoted context omitted.
For what reason? Why is it useful economically to turn computer hashes into a system of collectible numbers that exist on a common list?
Useful? It's gambling, gambling on whatever system is backing the currency, like the bitcoim blockchain or usefulness of anonymity by monero, USD pegged currencies beinf used to avoid needing dollars for international trade,etc.... or maybe people just like to gamble sometimes. No one accused blackjack of being useful to society.
Re: Proposed SEC order to freeze, repatriate Binance.US assets
#385The SEC was meeting with SBF and failed to protect US citizens who sent money to FTX. So far Binance hasn't pulled a ponzi scam (they existed before Alameda/FTX and have never stolen anyone's money). So basically the SEC failed to protect people from that ponzi scammer boy SBF was, but they're going after the like of Binance and Coinbase, who, so far, never stole a cent from anyone?
How do you know Binance hasn't stolen anyone's money? Is there a reputable auditor's statement to that effect? Seems very unlikely when Binance pretends they're not even headquartered in any jurisdiction. Nobody has any idea about Binance's actual money flows and where customer funds have actually ended up.
"...is there a Snopes fact checked source?..."
I'm honestly finding it more and more difficult to believe there are actual biological people who think and talk this way...
Re: Proposed SEC order to freeze, repatriate Binance.US assets
#386Bitcoin solves this. Sorry I just had to. I think crypto as an investable asset class is finished. SEC is sending a very clear signal here. It’s entirely the community’s fault for failing to properly manage this space. They actually earned public’s trust (sometime during the pandemic). And then they threw it all away for a few bucks.
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#389Bitcoin solves this. Sorry I just had to. I think crypto as an investable asset class is finished. SEC is sending a very clear signal here. It’s entirely the community’s fault for failing to properly manage this space. They actually earned public’s trust (sometime during the pandemic). And then they threw it all away for a few bucks.
Crypto's fate is bound be like those alternative Reddits and Twitters. What kind of users an alternative Reddit attracts? 1. People who don't like Reddit because of privacy concerns or other ideological reasons. 2. People who are banned by Reddit. It turns out group 2 is much larger than group 1 and the community rots. Now what kind of people who cryptos (a.k.a. alternative money) attract? 1. People who don't like ba…
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#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
Crypto's fate is bound be like those alternative Reddits and Twitters. What kind of users an alternative Reddit attracts? 1. People who don't like Reddit because of privacy concerns or other ideological reasons. 2. People who are banned by Reddit. It turns out group 2 is much larger than group 1 and the community rots. Now what kind of people who cryptos (a.k.a. alternative money) attract? 1. People who don't like ba…
The banking industry makes 25 times more profit than all other industries around the world combined. It has no competition and abuses this fact. Isn't it interesting how little awareness this issue has?
And that's why Apple is worth 6x more than JP Morgan Chase?