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Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Banning the domain actually doesn't work because people see that the domain is banned, observe that there's nothing wrong with the domain, and then accuse us of being unfair and hostile to the author/site. In doing that they usually jump to the most uncharitable, horrible reasons they can imagine for why we might have done so. It doesn't work to say "but they asked us to ban their site" because there's no reliable wa…

"In doing that they usually jump to the most uncharitable, horrible reasons they can imagine for why we might have done so." So you do understand why one wouldn't want to deal with a significant part of the user base here given that they behave in such ways, and thus why one might want to avoid any traffic coming from here, but feel that it's not your job to deal with those users, because then their behavior would af…

I didn't see any evidence for the claims made.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Looking at the HTML for the blog post section of the site, it's not what's advertised, or they haven't implemented it yet as it's just the Google redirect. document.referrer.startsWith("https://news.ycombinator.com")&&(console.log("Hacker News is becoming worse than 4chan. Do better."),document.location="https://google.com") EDIT: Yes, it's the old redirect added in March: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/AsahiLinux.git…

Whatever they did doesn't seem to work here on my Firefox. I click the link from Hacker News and I get the blog post exactly as if I typed in the URL myself.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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As far as the thread goes, the author sounds as though they are a child throwing a tantrum. In the original OpenGL thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36212674 there seems to be some discussion as to why the author hates HN, i.e. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36229753 quoted here: > It's not really all that much of a moral conundrum. Marcan's belief - expressed a number of times on his Mastodon - appea…

You can't just claim that without knowing the context. Also I think, if some website doesn't want you to link to it, and politely redirects you. You shouldn't deploy code evade referrer for that site particularly. C'mon we aren't talking about using a VPN to evade a region block, it's one website abusing their referrer tags against another.

> and politely redirects you.

I never got the redirect here but from what I understand about it, it is absolutely not polite in my opinion to redirect from an Asahi Linux blog to Google because I happened to find the blog post on Hacker News. In fact, it's quite rude.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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As someone who is regularly falling victim to the rightward lurch (for having committed the dastardly crime of the wrong hormone activating in-utero), the only reason I don't actively block Hacker News readers is that I make ad money off of them. That is the only reason it's worth the abuse vector to me. dang, if you are reading this, please take a moment to seriously consider the actions you have taken today. I unde…

Hi, I like your blog. There are some really great articles.

As far as i can tell the problem you have with HN is that if one of your blog posts makes the front page you get idiots making shitty comments about you in the HN comments, right?

Do your posts get discussed anywhere else (reddit?), and if so how how does it compare?

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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As far as the thread goes, the author sounds as though they are a child throwing a tantrum. In the original OpenGL thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36212674 there seems to be some discussion as to why the author hates HN, i.e. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36229753 quoted here: > It's not really all that much of a moral conundrum. Marcan's belief - expressed a number of times on his Mastodon - appea…

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Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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As it should. Personally speaking, I flagged this thread, and I hope others do as well. There's nothing productive to be accomplished here, nor anything intellectually stimulating to discuss. So yeah, I'm totally for deleting/killing this entire post.

Well I’m still wondering how they are showing a text only to people who submitted something to HN and nobody seems to know either in the thread so at least there’s that…

It uses a CSS rule that checks if you have visited the link to submit on hacker news.

https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110503368406970051

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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I'm sure there must be some back story here. What are these people's concerns? They seem to believe that HN is a bastion for harassment. Of all the forums I read, this seems the most benign by a large margin.

My opinion: HN has a particular culture and attitude to discussion that can be grating for non-users. One example: HNers tend to approach topics as if they have a solid grasp on the context of a matter, and are often negative, hence dang's plea against 'middlebrow dismissal.' Another example: the common practice of leading rebuttals to a comment with "No. \n" While that's OK here, there are a lot of people who would…

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Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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For that outcome? Probably none, that's why it's the main downside. For other outcomes? It allows the current redirect/content change strategy to be applied without being called out as a specific one-off action to person/group/site, as it is here.

> without being called out as a specific one-off action But it is a specific one-off action and should be called out

This is in reference to CJ's proposed change of making it a global policy instead of the one off it already is. Without that change, the downside mentioned does not exist.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Banning the domain actually doesn't work because people see that the domain is banned, observe that there's nothing wrong with the domain, and then accuse us of being unfair and hostile to the author/site. In doing that they usually jump to the most uncharitable, horrible reasons they can imagine for why we might have done so. It doesn't work to say "but they asked us to ban their site" because there's no reliable wa…

"In doing that they usually jump to the most uncharitable, horrible reasons they can imagine for why we might have done so." So you do understand why one wouldn't want to deal with a significant part of the user base here given that they behave in such ways, and thus why one might want to avoid any traffic coming from here, but feel that it's not your job to deal with those users, because then their behavior would af…

I haven't expressed myself clearly enough if that's a possible response to what I tried to say there.

Unfortunately I'm at a workshop today and not free to take the hours I normally would to go over the explanation until it's clearly understandable. I only have a few minutes of break time. Perhaps it would have been better not to try in the first place, under such circumstnaces; but I'm not going to delete my GP comment now.

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