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If I hadn’t seen this post about UFOs and clicked on the comments I wouldn’t have read about this anniversary at all.
That is exactly his point, isn't it?
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>Much less commonly said, but still true, is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary trust. What you say is true. But here's the problem. 99% of people in this world are people you don't know well and don't know personally and they aren't famous enough for you to trust them. Thus by probability an extraordinary claim that is true is highly, highly likely to come from someone you will never have any form of "e…
You ignored the fact these people are not neutral. They're liars. If they're telling the truth now, they're some of the largest liars in human history. Your hypothetical is irrelevant in this case. I have answers, but discussing them would just be further excuses to try to dilute away this fundamental truth, so I decline. It's their responsibility to figure out how to be more trustworthy if they want it, not mine. (H…
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I am calling it as 90% probability non true based one of the two techniques you can use to validate these type of claims. My claim uses Method B Method A: Extensive analysis if this is a first account of facts or hearsay (here is the latest anyway). Extensive analysis of evidence, specially with metadata correlation between evidence arriving from different sources and timelines. Method B: Analysis of instinctive and…
Body language showing lying is debunked and bullshit
"Nonverbal communication and deception" - https://www.paulekman.com/blog/nonverbal-communication-and-d...
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You make a very good point, I’m going to stick with the grifter/liar/mentally ill thesis instead.
His actions would have seriously bad consequences for him if he was lying. Several reputable people have gone on record testifying for his (mental) integrity. Even some scientists actually. The whole premise of that guy being easily discredited is absurd. Its lazy thinking plain and simple. Go read the actual article and corroborating information on 'The Debrief'.
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My mom would 100% buy anything this guys says. It's a clever business idea. Especially with all of those recent flaky gov videos people are eating up wholesale, without any concept of what it actually means to do interstellar travel while simultaneously having invisible motherships. And the only 'evidence' comes from US pilots in a particular height in the sky, never on the ground or visible in space via telescopes..…
The New York Times is said to have an article in the works for sunday, providing more background presumably. Funny, how HN is/isn't reacting to "US in possession of non-human technology".
Why do you think non-human tech exists?
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Body language showing lying is debunked and bullshit
References? "Nonverbal communication and deception" - https://www.paulekman.com/blog/nonverbal-communication-and-d...
Body language across a lot of samples and people can show patterns between this body language and lying. A single instance of someone displaying body language in a given context says virtually nothing. "Tells" vary wildly between people for a million different reasons as this study shows, and unless you study a specific individual very carefully in a scientific way, there is nothing you can gather from their body language.
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This is the situation I’m leaning towards. Military has been trying unsuccessfully for 80 years to figure it out. An adult finally walks into the room, sees how hopeless their attempts are, and whistleblows.
As someone who dug deep into the rabbit hole, yes, this is the "in-lore" explanation of it. Apparently a secretive clique in the air force take a group of scientists every few decades to see if any headway can be made into reverse engineering the technology. See "The day before Roswell" from US Colonel Corso Phillip. Epistemic note: the book has been dramatized by the publisher for effect and diverges from Corso's pe…
Backed by documents newly declassified through the Freedom of Information Act, Colonel Philip J. Corso (Ret.), a member of President Eisenhower’s National Security Council and former head of the Foreign Technology Desk in the US Army, has come forward to reveal his personal stewardship of alien artifacts from the Roswell crash. He tells us how he spearheaded the Army’s reverse-engineering project that led to today’s integrated circuit chips, fiber optics, lasers, and super-tenacity fibers, and “seeded” the Roswell alien technology to giants of American industry. Laying bare the US government’s shocking role in the Roswell incident—what was found, the cover-up, and how they used alien artifacts to change the course of twentieth-century history—The Day After Roswell is an extraordinary memoir that not only forces us to reconsider the past, but also our role in the universe.
https://www.amazon.com/Day-After-Roswell-Philip-Corso/dp/067...
The Day Before Roswell, James Easton, 1997
If we accept the Project Mogul explanation as infinitely more likely and supported by the evidence, there is no reason why anyone who was open-minded to the possibilities should feel contrite.
So the Army Air Force hadn't actually recovered our popular conception of a flying saucer at all...but that's what was suggested by the press release. And when the issue is confused by a dramatic testimony from such an ostensibly credible witness as Glenn Dennis, it seemed there was a solid foundation to place the further evidence in context.
Crash sites galore, wreckage with alien writing, alien bodies recovered and possibly even survivors, autopsies witnessed, a grandiose and cynical cover-up which spanned decades...
But it was clearly a specious foundation. All of it.
This perception of the Roswell story will be doubtless be an anathema to the Roswell fundamentalists.
But it isn't for them, it's for those who are interested in any objective rationalisation of the truth, even, to paraphrase Kent Jeffrey, if it does mean there is no Santa Claus.
http://geocitiessites.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/roswell030...
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What evidence do we have that they traveled faster than light rather than, say, leaving a very, very, very long time ago? Or launching something in our direction, in hopes of generations surviving, but they didn't manage to, so there's nobody on board anymore? Or why couldn't they just have significantly misidentified what it would take to navigate in our atmosphere and have sent a ship that wasn't prepared, and didn…
>What evidence do we have that they traveled faster than light rather than, say, leaving a very, very, very long time ago? We would see a generation ship coming. It would be big, it would give off waste heat, it would probably have to stay in orbit, if we're assuming it follows physics we're familiar with, it would have to use chemical or nuclear rocket propulsion, dump waste and need constant refueling and maintenan…
Just because a human generation ship would have to be large, it doesn't mean some other species' generation ship would have needed to be.
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Knowing that life may be common is a lot different than knowing that intelligence is.
But claiming it definitely isn't is just as absurd as claiming it definitely is. Maybe even more so.
It's absurd to claim intelligent life doesn't exist, as we know it does on Earth. And it's absurd to claim any level of probability for other intelligent life until we have one more data point.