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Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by tqwhite »

No wonder Vice is on the rocks. To say it is too early to tell is a ridiculous understatement. Comparing this to Oculus and the rest is just lazy.

The Harvard guy who ran Grace Hopper's lab in 1941 famously said, "Only six electronic digital computers would be required to satisfy the computing needs of the entire United States." Had Vice been published then, they would have praised his perspicacity. I imagine few people today would agree.

Vision is a new platform. I can think of plenty of uses for it. Helping physically limited people and replacing my painfully small video screen are only the most obvious. Add travel and you have a market. Add industrial use and, well, the world is a pretty succulent oyster.

I don't know if it will win but I do know that declaring it DOA is stupid.

I felt bad giving this dope a click. The article a waste of time and the whole Apple Vision is bullshit crowd are idiots.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by bilekas »

Brendinooo wrote: post #3

Commentary feels a bit lazy. Seems to operate on the assumption that it's not different than previous AR/VR offerings in any way. If they can find a million people to watch movies on flights and/or use it as a monitor replacement, and if it works well for those use cases, then Apple will net $3.5B of revenue and have a solid foundation to build on. I don't think the first generation needs to do a whole lot more than…

> Commentary feels a bit lazy. Seems to operate on the assumption that it's not different than previous AR/VR offerings in any way.

Quite typical for vice to be fair. What I find most interesting are the reviews from people who have actually tried it and are really impressed, especially those who would normally be skeptical of VR&AR.

Nobody has said this is a 'game changer' just that they seem to be giving the attention to detail that Apple are known for and for those who HAVE actually tried it, it seems it might actually pay off.

An aside : As for the pricing, it's almost redundant these days to comment on Apple's pricing.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by Fricken »

Brendinooo wrote: post #3

Commentary feels a bit lazy. Seems to operate on the assumption that it's not different than previous AR/VR offerings in any way. If they can find a million people to watch movies on flights and/or use it as a monitor replacement, and if it works well for those use cases, then Apple will net $3.5B of revenue and have a solid foundation to build on. I don't think the first generation needs to do a whole lot more than…

A non-lazy rebuttal would include a description of the hypothetical killer app that Vision could support. Apple's got nuthin'. I got nuthin'. Nobody else has anything convincing either.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by cascades42 »

Invictus0 wrote: post #27
Brendinooo wrote: post #3

Commentary feels a bit lazy. Seems to operate on the assumption that it's not different than previous AR/VR offerings in any way. If they can find a million people to watch movies on flights and/or use it as a monitor replacement, and if it works well for those use cases, then Apple will net $3.5B of revenue and have a solid foundation to build on. I don't think the first generation needs to do a whole lot more than…

Is the flight use case real? Are people going to feel comfortable playing sound from an un-enclosed speaker with people sitting an inch away? The battery life is only 2 hours, so any flight longer than New York to Charlotte is going to require you to have multiple batteries or some other entertainment device. 2 hours isn't even long enough to watch movies.

AC power is becoming more common on flights, and I speculate that you will be able to use Bluetooth headphones.

Otherwise, yeah probably a multiple battery solution.

I don't really see myself caring about the movies during a flight use case.

For working during a flight, I'd greatly prefer the Vision Pro, as I am easily distracted by my surroundings and would value the improved ergonomics over being hunched over a laptop (I'm flying in coach). And for reading PDFs and web browsing, ergonomics again seem superior to a smartphone or tablet.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by darod »

pcurve wrote: post #7

"expensive novelty bullshit for rich people." Yes. Then it will will turn into moderately priced novelty bullshit for normal people in a few years. At lower price, I'll be buying it just for the immersive FaceTime and Photos browsing experience. This will be the new fancy iPad and Apple will make a lot of money off of it.

Immersive FaceTime? How is this going to work well? The person you're talking to will be using their phone/tablet and where is your camera? If you use the continuity camera feature with an iphone, you're going to see their entire face without the headset and they're looking at someone with these goggles on. Not a good user experience IMO.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by ghusto »

pixelbath wrote: post #18

Author has not tried the product, and their main points seem to be: 1. Meta makes VR headsets and failed. 2. Vision has a lot of fancy tech, but I don't understand how that helps Apple. 3. People who are excited about Vision also liked Google Glass, a failed product. 4. Big televisions are cheaper. 5. Apple didn't mention motion sickness, so maybe that's a problem. Hope this saves at least someone from a very clickba…

I don't think that's accurate. His main point is that there is no market for this, and the points you mentioned are just digs he gets in whilst Apple's on the ground.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by bamfly »

bluescrn wrote: post #38
pcurve wrote: post #7

"expensive novelty bullshit for rich people." Yes. Then it will will turn into moderately priced novelty bullshit for normal people in a few years. At lower price, I'll be buying it just for the immersive FaceTime and Photos browsing experience. This will be the new fancy iPad and Apple will make a lot of money off of it.

When did Apple pricing ever trend downwards over time?

There were some Apple events in the '10s that featured significant price cuts, often alongside an improved product. Better iPad, $100 cheaper, better MacBook, $200 cheaper, that kind of thing.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by pzo »

Don't things only rich people will buy it e.g. I think it can be very useful for blind people especially those who recently got blind and haven't adapted yet.

I would be happy to hear opinion of any developer here on HN that is blind if they might find this tech appealing and useful.

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