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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by RMPR »

llampx wrote: post #10

Every social network goes through this. You used to be able to access Facebook via other front-ends as well, same with Twitter. This will cut down drastically on my reddit usage, and for that I am thankful. I don't have the Facebook or Twitter apps on my phone, and only use them from Firefox in Private mode when I do get the urge to check them.

> I don't have the Facebook or Twitter apps on my phone, and only use them from Firefox in Private mode when I do get the urge to check them.

How do you open your messages with Facebook on mobile? Everytime I try it wants to redirect me to the app that of course I don't have. The desktop mode is just horrible to use on my Pixel 6 (I find the screen too small).

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by account42 »

omar12 wrote: post #365
randunel wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Communities used to be on specialised forums and blogs. I've watched my favourite specialised blogs turn off comments because of bot spam, and I've watched forums raise the sign up bar and browsing restrictions for similar reasons. Reddit's anti-spam measures plus moderation makes it a much more decent experience.

> Communities used to be on specialised forums and blogs. Now these communities are on Discord, which is not the friendliest to look for archived knowledge. If Discord can solve the UX for knowledge share, I can see it as the product with the better chance of replacing Reddit.

I hope not. Discord is outright hostile to the open internet and should not be considered an archive for anything.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by account42 »

xeromal wrote: post #357
vorpalhex wrote: post #332

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"Really, once you get distracted, the pain of sitting on a nail just goes away!" Spying on users, injecting ads, and dark patterns. Or you could just uh.. not have any of that?

Users will be spied upon in any app if they're authenticated. The ads thing is silly. How else do you get free content.

Reddit isn't providing free content, the users (or whoever the users got the content from) are the ones providing the content. None of them are paid. Reddit is only a host and would ideally be replaced by a public utility or community-run alternative.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by account42 »

phreack wrote: post #355

The only app I use to browse Reddit is old.reddit.com. It's still great on mobile if you have a browser with proper text reflow (ie. Opera on Android, since all others can't be bothered). But everytime I end up seeing the "new" design it's instantly repelling, I can't browse it even once. This is Digg all over again!

> a browser with proper text reflow (ie. Opera on Android, since all others can't be bothered)

The sad thing is all browsers can reflow text, they just demand websites add a meta tag and will otherwise emulate a larger desktop-sized viewport. This is even more ridiculous now that these browsers also hava a separate desktop mode that also enforces this behavior even with the tag but still couldn't be bothered to fix the default.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by xeromal »

account42 wrote: post #433
xeromal wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Users will be spied upon in any app if they're authenticated. The ads thing is silly. How else do you get free content.

Reddit isn't providing free content, the users (or whoever the users got the content from) are the ones providing the content. None of them are paid. Reddit is only a host and would ideally be replaced by a public utility or community-run alternative.

People miss the forest from the trees when it comes to social media claiming the users make the community. While it is completely true, it's not the complete picture. The communities have to be fostered. I'd be willing to make a bet that any alternative websites and/or communities will not rise up to replace Reddit because it's hard to foster a social network. Way harder than the individual parts of moderation per subreddit. The people who think otherwise are most likely living in a fantasy Utopia

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Post by makestuff »

lyu07282 wrote: post #426
makestuff wrote: post #393

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Yeah so OPs point about "making plenty of money" isn't really true. Now, I'm sure they could pull a twitter and layoff 75% of the company and reach profitability.

No this is the entire point I'm making, they are not interested in creating a sustainable infrastructure for the internet, they want investors they want to IPO they want to grow and grow and grow. If they destroy themselves in the process it's a bet everyone invested along the way is perfectly fine with, demanding even. The entire structure of this is cancerous.

Yeah I get your point now, I agree the entire grow at all costs is not good for building a sustainable company. Investors are never happy with normal growth rates, they want exponential growth which isn't possible after a certain point without ruining your product.

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Post by slantaclaus »

tomrod wrote: post #402
slantaclaus wrote: post #390

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I feel like all of Reddit has become political, even the niche forums. It’s all the same moaning and groaning

Seems like that is because politics itself has reached intractable enshittification, not necessarily Reddit. Reddit is more or less reflective of the internet writ large.

The problem is that politics enters every chat on Reddit regardless of the topic

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by interestica »

concordDance wrote: post #348
pierat wrote: post #320

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Control of the narrative is worth more than just money. So instead of just removing it, they just set the price to be laughable high so few, if any actually pay. Reddit is also betting that the 'sticky' users who contribute won't leave. And I think they grossly underestimated just how fast content creators can abandon your platform for a more friendly one. I also surmise that the API charging is to claw money back fr…

Reddit doesn't really have content creators, just content reposters.

It also depends on how you define content. While the initial thread may be a “repost”, the ensuing discussion is original and leads to different inputs.
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