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Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by e40 »

brohee wrote: post #300
zamadatix wrote: post #11

From a follow up post on Mastadon https://social.treehouse.systems/@AsahiLinux/110497512340479... : "Also in this update: We now have a cpuidle driver, which significantly lowers idle power consumption by enabling deep CPU sleep. You should also get better battery runtime both idle and during sleep, especially on M1 Pro/Max machines. Thanks to the cpuidle driver, s2idle now works properly, which should fix timekeepin…

Another follow up on Mastodon is about the ban evasion that HN does specifically for Asahi. https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110503050993279759 I find it pretty tasteless for HN to do that.

It’s a little hard to understand what is going on. Can you explain? Thanks.

Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by [deleted] »

MBCook wrote: post #253
thx-2718 wrote: post #167

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I am sorry but you're missing the point here. I'm not arguing over better hardware (performance) or price. I am arguing over hack-ability; that's it. I hope you can understand that.

> I'm not arguing over better hardware (performance) or price Neither was the comment you replied to. They were arguing that Apple provides excellent hardware support (in terms of repairs and how long they take) and lifetime (in terms of how long updates are provided for the device). Hackability is irrelevant. Apple clearly doesn’t target that market and hadn’t since the Apple II days. Would you buy a Lamborghini and…

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Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by pyrox »

e40 wrote: post #301
brohee wrote: post #300

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Another follow up on Mastodon is about the ban evasion that HN does specifically for Asahi. https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110503050993279759 I find it pretty tasteless for HN to do that.

It’s a little hard to understand what is going on. Can you explain? Thanks.

Asahi Linux's site previously redirected any site with the Referer header set to 'news.ycombinator.com' to google.com. They did this because they believe that Hacker News' community fosters a hostile environment, and thus it was blocked. Setting `rel=noreferrer` on an `a` tag means that the browser will not submit this header, thus meaning this sort of redirect will not occur. Also(as per Marcan's Mastodon account), this rel tag has only been added to asahilinux.org links, not any other links on HN. This means that the moderators of HN believe that the commentary that has in the past been quite misinformative should be allowed, and they are deciding to bypass the block that was put in place by the Asahi team. Now, as per https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110503331622393719 , they're adding an HTML header to anyone who has submitted a post to HN(or has the submit page in their history), as they have no other way of doing anything, as they no longer have the Referer header.

Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by 101011 »

pyrox wrote: post #303
e40 wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a little hard to understand what is going on. Can you explain? Thanks.

Asahi Linux's site previously redirected any site with the Referer header set to 'news.ycombinator.com' to google.com. They did this because they believe that Hacker News' community fosters a hostile environment, and thus it was blocked. Setting `rel=noreferrer` on an `a` tag means that the browser will not submit this header, thus meaning this sort of redirect will not occur. Also(as per Marcan's Mastodon account),…

This raises interesting moral questions that I'm not sure I have an answer to.

For one, I don't believe this place fosters a hostile environment, although it's definitely a place where people love to tell you how you're technically wrong about something.

For another, I would guess that there are a very limited number of websites that would opt into this sort of anti-traffic behavior. Hacker news could certainly choose to honor it, but it also feels within their right to bypass the block.

I wonder if there's a sort of middle ground, where HN alerts the user of the redirect that would have occurred, but still shoots the user to the desired location.

But now you're getting into user flows and begging the question as to why the redirect is there in the first place.

I'd love to know more about the perceived hostility, even reading up on Mastodon left me with more questions than answers.

Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by fsflover »

rodgerd wrote: post #222
fsflover wrote: post #157

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My laptop can use TPM and a hardware key with my keys and free software. Where is the degraded security?

You seem unfamiliar with the Alder Lake compromise.

Indeed. Care to give a link? Quick DuckDuckGo search returned nothing.

Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by vulcan01 »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #212
vulcan01 wrote: post #191

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Yes, that's right; I generally pop back in to macOS every so often to check for OS updates (which update the firmware as well - no way to just update the firmware).

I seem to remember there being a tiny recovery partition or cut-down version of macos or something maybe from boot CD (we have an old iMac). Also found this: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/311947/how-to-upda... Still I'd rather have no MacOS.

There is a recovery partition (in fact, it's used when installing Asahi) but I don't think it's possible to update the firmware from there. Boot CD might work. You could try asking on r/AsahiLinux.

Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by gmokki »

hedora wrote: post #145
acomjean wrote: post #130

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Sorry it didn't work for you. I would recommend anyone buying at notebook to get one with linux pre-installed. I did that because I want to use this thing, not futz with it. I'm assuming you're using Asahi Linux on your Macs (though you said you wouldn't touch it..). The lack of hardware diversity should make comparability easier, even if everything need to be reversed engineered. I get 6 hours or so on my machine. I…

What ryzen laptop is this that you keep referencing? The negative experiences with the thinkpad are typical of all the intel laptops I have recently used, preloaded OS (including Windows, and to a lesser extent, Linux and MacOS), or not. Whenever I look for an AMD laptop, it has a low resolution (1080p) display, and/or an off-center keyboard/trackpad (or has some other obvious fatal flaw). I'm typing this on an M2 ma…

I managed to get Ryzen 5850U/15W Thinkpad with 4k display in 2021. There were some necessary firmware updates during the first year to get the suspend and power management working (afaik, not so many kernel bugs), luckily fwupd now works for Dell and Lenovo so fw updates are easy and there is a popup to recommend them when available. For the past year it has been very stable running Fedora and thus using the latest kernels.

Now waiting for the Ryzen 7840U configured to 15W to be available with 64GB ram.

Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by judge2020 »

pyrox wrote: post #303
e40 wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a little hard to understand what is going on. Can you explain? Thanks.

Asahi Linux's site previously redirected any site with the Referer header set to 'news.ycombinator.com' to google.com. They did this because they believe that Hacker News' community fosters a hostile environment, and thus it was blocked. Setting `rel=noreferrer` on an `a` tag means that the browser will not submit this header, thus meaning this sort of redirect will not occur. Also(as per Marcan's Mastodon account),…

Doesn't seem to be applied to older posts https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33891197

Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by judge2020 »

mrpopo wrote: post #299
ezfe wrote: post #298

Why does this posting have a rel=noreferrer tag, when others don’t?

Looks like jwz links also have a "noreferrer" tag added as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3132752 New silent HN policy to avoid showing its users that some people don't like them.

That page doesn't include noreferrer on the article link for me.

Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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Post by sussmannbaka »

101011 wrote: post #304
pyrox wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Asahi Linux's site previously redirected any site with the Referer header set to 'news.ycombinator.com' to google.com. They did this because they believe that Hacker News' community fosters a hostile environment, and thus it was blocked. Setting `rel=noreferrer` on an `a` tag means that the browser will not submit this header, thus meaning this sort of redirect will not occur. Also(as per Marcan's Mastodon account),…

This raises interesting moral questions that I'm not sure I have an answer to. For one, I don't believe this place fosters a hostile environment, although it's definitely a place where people love to tell you how you're technically wrong about something. For another, I would guess that there are a very limited number of websites that would opt into this sort of anti-traffic behavior. Hacker news could certainly choos…

there is constant transphobia against Asahi contributors on display on this site. Every single article that gets to the frontpage will have dozens of vile posts in the deads and a couple sprinkled inbetween. I’m not sure if HN staff doesn’t care about it, agrees with them or simply isn’t aware.

It’s not limited to the Asahi project, either. The site isn’t safe for queer folks.

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