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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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It is my opinion that the decline in US Christianity has not reduced the underlying religiosity, and the population that would previously have been firm believers in angels/demons/gods/etc. have directed their desire to believe to something else. UFOs are one of many such alternatives.

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> likely few would hear a joke… take it way too literally… This is the premise of about half of I Think You Should Leave skits

Have you seen the new season? Honestly they're hit or miss.

All sketch comedy in a nutshell.

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Reminds me of the UFO that ended up being a lens flare on a gimbaled camera of a fighter jet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs

I'm beyond skeptical of the 'alien' videos, but Mick West is no better. He comes up with some pet theory that can create a similar visual phenomena, completely ignores any and all other factors, and then declares his pet theory the 'truth.' It's literally the exact same sort of conspiracy theory style behavior he claims to be fighting against, but he feels his theories are special because they're mundane, so they mus…

How does any of that affect his thesis that the black object in this specific video isn't the aircraft but is rather an artifact of the camera?

He doesn't make any claims about the aircraft because he is saying it isn't visible... and the scope of his analysis is this single piece video evidence.

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I am usually one to treat EVERYTHING with a very healthy dose of skepticism, but who are any of us to say what is possible or what is not? I'm sure that a century ago, space was just something we would never reach. The US Military released rather intriguing, yet unexplained videos of objects outmaneuvering our top jets. You should go check those out. I've yet to see an explanation that covers all the data those jets…

>but who are any of us to say what is possible or what is not? This is the tragic sentence which is letting the parade of carnival animals in through the back door. In some sense it's true that intellectual humility is necessary as we allow ourselves to be challenged by ideas we thought not possible. But it's true the way hallmark card quotes are true, as vague generalities. It does no work as a specific response to…

A thought experiment. The universe is extremely large and billions of years old. Let's imagine life has developed within a few of those billions of galaxies out there, then imagine this started 1 billion years before us. How advanced to you think we could get in another billion years (assuming we don't annihilate ourselves)? What's really impossible?

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Maybe every instance of time travel the universe splits in two, to prevent all the causal loop paradoxes etc? Ie, time is always a tree branching, and traveling back in time doesn't change that?

Well, sure, it's possible my consciousness is one that's travelled along every single branch where the backwards-time-travel didn't happen, but that strikes me as extraordinarily unlikely if there have been even only a fifty such attempts in all human (future) history.

What I mean is when a particle travels back in time, the universe branches forward in parallel, from that particle, at the instant it arrives. This resolves all paradoxes as the independently instantiated time streams can't interact.

I believe there are present theories of time/space that rely on this kind of idea.

It also might mean any time traveller could never get back to the exact "when" they came from. Though if there was a way to traverse parallel time streams, there'd be no paradox as the moment they arrived "back" would also branch.

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How about cell phone video?[0] [0] https://www.dvidshub.net/video/843620/navy-2021-flyby-video

Can you point out what's happening in the video? I don't see anything

There's something captured flying by the camera as it is pointing sideways.

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You're confusing the legislative branch with the intelligence community and other participants in the military industrial complex. Yes, Congress is full of incompetent elected officials who "can hardly pass a budget." But the MIC is comprised of highly specialized professionals with careers spanning multiple presidential administrations and dozens of congressional sessions. It is a mistake to assume these people are…

If the military industrial complex is so competent, how come it failed so hard in Iraq and Afghanistan? Even the "true" conspiracies, like mkultra ... What did all that abuse accomplish? Not much. Unethical? Yes. Murderous? At times. Competent? No. Bumbling fools. The term "military industrial complex" was meant as a warning about corruption, not that they'd manage to be good at it.

I think from the MIC POV the war in iraq and afghanistan was a incredible success. Why end a war in a year when you can milk the DOD for 20 years?

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I am usually one to treat EVERYTHING with a very healthy dose of skepticism, but who are any of us to say what is possible or what is not? I'm sure that a century ago, space was just something we would never reach. The US Military released rather intriguing, yet unexplained videos of objects outmaneuvering our top jets. You should go check those out. I've yet to see an explanation that covers all the data those jets…

There are unexplained bugs in my software, but I’m pretty sure they weren’t the work of aliens.

For sure. Even if we can't explain how or why some phenomenon occurred, the conclusion "we don't know of anything on Earth that does this, so it must be aliens" is so much less likely than "it is something on Earth we haven't figured out yet".
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