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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by dcow »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #497
hayst4ck wrote: post #480

step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…

The Flying Dutchman is thought to probably have been a Fata Morgana. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Dutchman With everyone handwringing about climate change clearly being our doom, has no one once wondered if it might be partly responsible for an upsurge in sightings of unexplained aerial phenomenon?

Reminds me of the UFO that ended up being a lens flare on a gimbaled camera of a fighter jet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by omgwtfbyobbq »

hayst4ck wrote: post #480

step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…

Nope. Idle hands and all that...

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by whartung »

phlipski wrote: post #457

Where's Art Bell when we need him!?!?!?

Indeed. The real question is why are the aliens apparently loosening their grip and letting the government release more information now? Is this some alien end game!?!?

Art Bell’s show was a hoot to listen too.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by NotSuspicious »

marci wrote: post #258
adventured wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most advanced tech and research, as an overall, would be trivial for an advanced alien to decide. And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least. The notion that it's impossible to figure out whether an advanced alien would think Afghanistan or the US have more advanced tech/research/science, is absurd. And if you can make that distinction, you can keep going.

For a species advanced enough for trivially navigating the universe, the difference between the US and Afghanistan would be trivial. If they are more in the individuality side of thing (in contrast to hive mind), the dumbest of their lot would probably be smarter than the smartest person we can find here, probably looking at us the way we look at other intelligent species. To measure us, would they look at the capaci…

This entire comment chain is missing the fact that there are many UAP sightings in China and one of the reasons the US isn't being mum about this anymore is because China is exploring the phenomenon without all of the West's weird religious and secular hangups about the possibility of nonhuman intelligence.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by GolfPopper »

ajross wrote: post #514
hayst4ck wrote: post #480

step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…

Absolutely fascinating that the top two replies to an article about Aliens! are positing basically the same conspiracy: that this is a deliberate psyop run by a "nation state" and not just... people being wrong about stuff? Why go through the trouble to refute one unlikely and poorly supported hypothesis just to jump right into a new one? Has Occam taught us nothing? There are no successfully hidden "conspiracies" of…

Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1235/

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by cheshire137 »

sandspar wrote: post #586

It'd be weird if it turned out that it is an alien aircraft and... that's it. It's too advanced for us to understand, it's too high tech. And we're left with, "Yup, aliens exist. No, we don't know anything more about them." It's like that old movie where an airline pilot drops a Coca Cola can into the midst of an uncontacted Amazonian tribe. "Wow, this thing sure is neat. Damned if I know what it's for though."

That old movie you're talking about... Is that The Gods Must Be Crazy?

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Post by TechBro8615 »

MacsHeadroom wrote: post #581
ajross wrote: post #514

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely fascinating that the top two replies to an article about Aliens! are positing basically the same conspiracy: that this is a deliberate psyop run by a "nation state" and not just... people being wrong about stuff? Why go through the trouble to refute one unlikely and poorly supported hypothesis just to jump right into a new one? Has Occam taught us nothing? There are no successfully hidden "conspiracies" of…

The U.S. Inspector General called the claims "credible and urgent" and congress has planned a hearing on the documents provided to them under oath on said retrieval programs. This clearly goes well beyond someone simply being mistaken.

Wow, nobody has ever lied to congress before! And what are the chances their testimony pops up right after the introduction of a program incentivizing whistleblowers to come forward?

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by Reptur »

hayst4ck wrote: post #480

step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…

Just look at the history of alien / UFO sightings. It all began at the beginning of WW2 and the Cold War. It is my humble opinion all just a psychological operation. Some benefits that a government would have doing such a thing would be: Division, misdirection of MSM and population, other news that is very important is intentionally being sandbagged. Fear, Hysteria, & Confusion allows further tightening of control of a society and prompts consent to loss of liberty in exchange for false security. It also increases government support. As well as an intimidation tactic to their enemies that they possibly have much stronger weapons / tech that they let on.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by thsksbd »

ex-airforce claims that the air force is hiding alien craft.

What's more likely?

1. That aliens who can break the speed of light were successfully shot down decades ago by the US using... a phantom f-4?

2. The "whistleblower" is spreading FUD to encourage an increase in the airforce budget

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