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Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by thaumasiotes » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 1:57 AM UTC

debacle wrote: post #6

I agree with other commenters. Before Discord, voice over internet was not easy. Skype, Google Meet, Vent, TeamSpeak, and that other one I can't remember the name of that we used for a while. Discord works. It works well. It might just be the most "desktopy" Internet app that I've ever used (yes more than GDocs). If you don't want to pay for things, you get ads. And the ad market has been slowly deflating for over a…

What did Twitch do?

Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by fastball » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 1:57 AM UTC

We use Discord as the primary communication channel for our two-man startup and love it. Both me and my co-founder pay for Nitro not because we want to participate in an "internet caste system" (my-founder is basically the only person that would actually see my "Nitro" status and vice versa), but because we want to support a great product that has served us well over the years. Some of the perks are fun but generally go unused by us.

Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by Solvency » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 1:57 AM UTC

debacle wrote: post #6

I agree with other commenters. Before Discord, voice over internet was not easy. Skype, Google Meet, Vent, TeamSpeak, and that other one I can't remember the name of that we used for a while. Discord works. It works well. It might just be the most "desktopy" Internet app that I've ever used (yes more than GDocs). If you don't want to pay for things, you get ads. And the ad market has been slowly deflating for over a…

Wait, what was wrong with TeamSpeak?

Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by adamnemecek » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 1:58 AM UTC

lmm wrote: post #20

kmbfjr wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arguably, Napster and Bitorrent had issues that made killing them a tad easy. Wonder what they were?

Nah. They were easy to kill because those in power wanted to kill them. The same excuses would have worked on plenty of other things that weren't killed, because those in power were happy for them to survive.

Like what.

Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by dvt » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 1:58 AM UTC

Imagine comparing paying for a free service for a few irrelevant perks to a millennia-old systemic social system of oppression (that’s de facto still around, by the way). How tone deaf can you actually be?

Next up: paying for Twitter Blue is slavery.

Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by thaumasiotes » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 1:58 AM UTC

kmbfjr wrote: post #18

kashkhan wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah except the capitalists killed it. napster, bitorrent etc... being tried now with mastodon et al...

Arguably, Napster and Bitorrent had issues that made killing them a tad easy. Wonder what they were?

Napster was easy to kill. Bittorrent is still alive.

Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by lmm » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 1:59 AM UTC

adamnemecek wrote: post #24

lmm wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. They were easy to kill because those in power wanted to kill them. The same excuses would have worked on plenty of other things that weren't killed, because those in power were happy for them to survive.

Like what.

Youtube had an even higher proportion of piracy than Bittorrent or Napster at the relevant time, assuming that's what the ancestor post was getting at.

Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 1:59 AM UTC

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Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by kgwxd » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 2:00 AM UTC

My first kid had some struggles with understanding why it was absolutely ridiculous to spend hundreds of real dollars to e.g. get a particular Dominus in Roblox. It caused a lot of fights for about a year, but it finally sank in. When my second kid started playing he started down the same path. Caused a few arguments for a little while but, one day my first told him it was pretty stupid to spend real money on fake stuff and that was the end of the problem.

I personally buy into things like that in places I want to continue to exist for a long time e.g. Rocket League, a handful of YT channels through Patreon, and even Roblox. Turns out it's really fun to play it with your kids if they're not constantly browsing the item shop and begging for Robux.

I've never witnessed anyone talking down to the "lower class" except from insignificant trolls no one in the community respects anyway. Maybe it's different on discord but, if it is, I would blame the members of the community first, discord didn't invent the idea of selling cosmetics to keep the servers running and everyone needs to learn how to get over jealousy at some point in the their life.

Re: I will never participate in weird internet caste systems

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Post by SkipperCat » Wed, Jun 07, 2023, 2:00 AM UTC

I applaud your perspective, but if you want to truly break caste systems, seek social justice. Seek educating people who don't have access to affordable schooling. Seek public health care. Seek affordable housing. Seek fair elections. Seek prison reform. Seek fair wages.

Seek everything that affords people the dignity of live that everyone deserves.