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Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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i'm baffled too. it's so slow and unusable in almost every way. old reddit is so much snapier and usable. It feels like reddit devs are "innovating" to justify their salaries imo.

I doubt it's the devs. It was likely a change of product manager (or something similar) and the desire to impose their vision on things.

yeah you're probably right on that... shame.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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In addition to the UX of Mastodon/Lemmy, I also think the moderation or lack of it is a major issue. It would be nice if this got more attention, because it's even a weak point of places like reddit. On the plus side, reddit does have some blanket site wide content moderation that targets some of the most egregious and illegal content. I think that's good, and I don't think "leaving it up to individual server admins…

It seems to me that most popular Mastodon/Lemmy instances outlaw more stuff than reddit. How good they are at enforcing it is another matter.

I'm not necessarily looking for more things being outlawed, or less things being outlawed. Rather I'd like to see some system where subgroups can more fairly decide what gets outlawed or allowed, and mechanisms for transparency and accountability of enforcing such rules.

It may not matter that much for a sub dedicated to a niche topic, but hopefully its clear that subs that are supposed to represent cities, countries, and similar should somehow managed in a "democratic" like way. There is clear value in the names of these subs.

While mastodon doesn't have "subs" per-se, having some sort of moderation that is "democratic" and implemented by a diverse group of people would be good to see. Having each instance owner have ultimate moderation power is not a plus in my book. Why should moderation and choice of content be biased towards those tech savvy enough to setup an instance? That's not what I want in a social media platform.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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Sharding, caching and queuing doesn't break federation. That's not a core flaw. As the ecosystem grows, a shortlist of popular, robust, federated instances will crop up for people who just don't want to bother. Again, if you have any core flaws, I'm all ears.

> Sharding, caching and queuing doesn't break federation. That's not a core flaw. I didn’t say it did, but it doesn’t enhance it either. > As the ecosystem grows, a shortlist of popular, robust, federated instances will crop up How short is a shortlist? When does that mean just new Reddit? I suppose I would be more enthused if at the least the basic design eased standing up high traffic (or let’s be honest even mild…

Even just two-three large and popular instances is enough to make a Reddit impossible, so that's how short it can get.

The performance story isn't just that the backend is written in Rust. It's also that the front is very lightweight (80kB), that the architecture is horizontally scalable, etc...

I don't see in any of those links a core flaw, a problem in the initial engineering that makes it impossible for the architecture to scale. All I see are some poorly written queries, for which the main devs made a root cause analysis and described how it can be fixed. Is that evidence that the inherent design isn't capable of adequate performance? No, it isn't. It's evidence that there are some small performance gotchas that can be fixed easily, and this is normal for an ambitious project.

But even as it is, yes, it can handle mild traffic. lemmy.ml runs on potato hardware, hexbear.net is an example of an instance which has ~3'000 comments a day, which is roughly the scale of this website, and it runs fine on a single dedicated server.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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People might want to avoid having the same thing happen with a reddit clone 10-20 years in the future. Federation allows communities to decide their own fate instead of having decisions handed out from on high

Sure, but only nerds will use them (not necessarily a bad thing) and will never go mainstream because of the difficulty to set up and search. Monolithic site like Reddit don't have that issue at all, you log in and away you go. Until someone makes federation that easy, I only see a Reddit replacement being of similar design and composition to Reddit.

Email is federated and everyone manages to use it just fine. It's possible the UX can be improved, in which case I'd invite you to contribute.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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At the end of the day people want to move to something that works with Apollo or RiF, and that's something Lemmy lacks.

Best second alternative I come across is Tildes, is invite only and is like how Reddit was few years ago, without the memes, AI bots, astroturfing and glowies.

There is an alternative being developed in nostr worth keep an eye.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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I was banned for saying that Marvel movies were boring in /r/movies. The mods of Reddit are absolutely why it's not an investable company. You can't express an opinion that they disagree with or you're at the whim of totally arbitrary gatekeepers.

I was once banned in a subreddit that hated crpto currencies for saying "crypto currencies exist"

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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This has been fun to watch. Reddits been working to deteriorate its quality for a long time. The major disappointment is that they aren't a publicly traded company so there is no way to make money on their downfall.

The reddit redesign is still a marvel of technology, in a negative way. I can not comprehend how it is even possible to make a piece of software, be it online or offline, that mainly just has to display text (and the occasional video, thumbnail or image), so incredibly slow and bug ridden. It's truly baffling. The editor for comments is buggy, regularly posts comments twice, can't handle copy/paste properly, "there w…

I would love to read an interview or AMA from the developers of Reddit's new site. Just to hear their side of the story. I also cannot believe how one could make a site so uniformly terrible in all ways, but I'm willing to at least give them the benefit of the doubt and hear them out. The top two explanations (to me so far) are either 1. the developers are totally incompetent or 2. they are deliberately sabotaging the site, possibly to dissuade users from using it. Nothing else makes sense, but I'm open to a logical explanation.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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> We just want reddit without the bullshit. What is the Reddit bullshit?

By bullshit he means censoring, forced advertising and content filtration which is conducted by the administrators and owners. These things are necessary to run a centralised internet service and some people with idealistic visions are trying to find a more open and inclusive alternative. But we have many examples why this is difficult or even impossible, with examples of Usenet or the direction Mastodon has been tak…

"Cause in reality we want to be steered mindlessly" "There is no running away from reddit, facebook, twitter."

Maybe speak for yourself?

I rather see the problem with money. It costs a lot to develope a stable communication plattform and run it. Decentralizing is even harder to do right.

But people expect things to be free on the internet and just working. Those who donate and put in effort are a small minority.

So this is why reddit will only be replaced by the next reddit financed by ad tech, that will act exactly the same in a few years. Unless people will start to take the base of their communication and information flow serious. Maybe this is a good start, but lemmy really does not seem to be an adequate technical alternative in its current shape.

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