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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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post #284

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I assume that interstellar travel is really difficult for any civilization. That assumption is based on my knowledge of physics (relativity in particular).

> That assumption is based on my knowledge of physics based on your knowledge of known physics. We're still adding to the periodic table...

>We're still adding to the periodic table...

That doesn't violate known physics in any way.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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The US is winning (or has won and keeps on winning) the Conquer Victory, the Diplomacy Victory, and the Culture Victory. I think that's the main means of winning Civilization? Been years since I played one.

Is it that shocking that a computer game made in the USA has notions of "winning" which align with those which are dominant in American culture?

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#294
post #119

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The paradox of ufology is that we can't trust the government because they've been covering up aliens for 70 years, but now we know aliens are real because the government says so. The only fact I know for certain is that the federal government and military industrial complex has a history of lying and waging information warfare on American citizens. If they tell me aliens are here, there's no way I will believe them.…

I think the best evidence against Aliens is if the government had any, they would have been trotted out for a rally by now by the last guy.

An alien was trotted out for a press conference June 19th, 1997 https://www.deseret.com/2007/3/25/20009206/former-governor-s...

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#295
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Dont get my hopes high. I have the feeling it will be a disappointment. Also why would aliens only visit the us? Surely other countries would be in possession of alien tech if the us was.

Technology to fly light years. But not the technology to land on earth without crashing.

Maybe their equipment and pilots are in desperate shape after untold generations crawling across the black.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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I can say I'm not sure what to think about this; I don't understand possible motivations nor psyop sufficiently to comment on the veracity/lack thereof.

Anecdotally, I'll note that this has sent folks I am acquainted with who believe that the Replicants walk among us (or variations thereof), right off the deep end. This validates what they've been asserting, and which people have pooh-pooh'd, all along.

Man, the fox is loose in the mental health henhouse. And please know that I don't judge or claim to understand that place.

It just all seems so irresponsible.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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To what end?

You're the fnord sensei so you ought to know best. ;) When I hear about this alien stuff or other "big government" conspiracies I'm always reminded of this saying, not sure where it's from. "Behind every vast conspiracy theory is a sincere hope that somewhere out there, someone knows what they're doing." (i.e., conspiracy nuts in a sense really want to believe in an all-powerful government because it would give them…

The military industrial complex is pretty powerful (arguably it's the most powerful organization on the planet), and is plenty capable of engaging in ongoing conspiracies and psyops. It's naive to believe that the same government who created nuclear bombs with the secret Manhattan Project, and that inserted intelligence agents into media companies in Project Mockingbird, is not continuing to conspire at levels of grand strategy equal to or exceeding those of its past projects.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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post #96

Aliens have never crashed here. Aliens have never even visited our solar system. The truth is more interesting: the galaxy is emptier than it should be.

> the galaxy is emptier than it should be.

It really isn't. Do the math, I did (scroll about halfway down): https://www.ryanmercer.com/ryansthoughts/2014/11/30/this-jus...

Being very generous, in my opinion, and assuming 1 in 2 systems has a planet/moon that is inhabitable by life as we know it, and that 1 in 2 of those has tool-building life at some point, in our galaxy you get something like 1 tool-building civilization per 600,000 square light-years spread out over 12 billion years.

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