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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by woodruffw »

moomoo11 wrote: post #129
orbital-decay wrote: post #104

Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project.

If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Everyone’s already encountered the starting conditions in most other countries. US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. I’m a naturalized US citizen, for example. Could have ended up anywhere but it’s best here in terms of opportunity and making new st…

To an alien without our particular brand of 21st century capital ethics, I'm not sure that the US is winning Civilization Earth.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by notatoad »

tmn wrote: post #15

I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

why is it always the navy pilots that always see the aliens, and not the commercial pilots. is it because navy pilots are more likely to be flying at some combination of high speed, bad weather conditions, or darkness that tends to make ordinary occurrences look more mysterious?

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by [deleted] »

HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #101
DoreenMichele wrote: post #45

I'm trying to think of any sci-fi stories where the aliens are lost tourists or similar. They are usually presumed to be scientists or government representatives checking out Earth and/or humankind. Maybe ET? -- I don't think that's explained? It's been a lot of years since I saw it. The reality is that the government is interested in unexplained phenomenon primarily for security reasons. That statement does not say…

Predator? Hunting tourism is a thing.

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by asimovfan »

ancientworldnow wrote: post #75
DoreenMichele wrote: post #45

I'm trying to think of any sci-fi stories where the aliens are lost tourists or similar. They are usually presumed to be scientists or government representatives checking out Earth and/or humankind. Maybe ET? -- I don't think that's explained? It's been a lot of years since I saw it. The reality is that the government is interested in unexplained phenomenon primarily for security reasons. That statement does not say…

Roadside Picnic, the inspiration behind Stalker, has aliens using Earth much like a family on a long drive might pull over for a scenic picnic site.

They actually just shoot stuff in the direction of the earth inadvertently if i recall correctly, they dont actually visit

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by boringuser2 »

ethanbond wrote: post #138
boringuser2 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm willing to put aside literally every mechanical interpretation of probability here, ignoring really poignant questions, in favor of one overarching question: Do you really, really think a species capable of interstellar travel would have vehicles or crafts that we could recognize as such? That feels more like a technology 100-200 years ahead of us, akin to science fiction, than the reality of a species hundreds o…

The fundamental issue is that people really have no intuition as to how unfathomably gigantic space is. Traveling Mars to Earth would require some decent tech. Traveling from the next star over requires some mind-bending tech. An entity traveling from the next galaxy over would necessarily be in possession of just some truly incomprehensible technology and would probably exist on spatial and temporal scales that just…

Now, imagine their dinky little arts and crafts UFOs are "crashing" due to something trivial like gravity.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by dekhn »

devwastaken wrote: post #30
thedangler wrote: post #9

The fact of the matter is the implications if this is real. Which it probably is to a point. Free energy devices and instant travel would decimate the economy that keeps the elite in power. “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.” ― Ben Rich CEO Lockheed Skunk Works

Free energy is not real, you've been watching too much conspiracy material designed by said elites.

well, gibbs free energy is real

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by wizofaus »

petilon wrote: post #77
wizofaus wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do. If it were possible we'd surely see them everywhere. Even if time travel was a one-way trip there's enough future billions of us that there'd be massive numbers with the sort of incurable fascination seth the past that they'd be motivated to travel back and see what it was like. Doesn't really seem any more or less likely than alien intelligence at any rate.

Time traveling humans is more likely for the following reason: It requires only one thing: worm hole or some other yet-to-be-invented mechanism for traveling to the past. For this to be alien intelligence, two things are required: First alien intelligence has to exist, and second, they too need a mechanism for speedy travel, to travel to another galaxy such that they can reach the destination within an individual ali…

I'm probably more positive alien intelligence exists than I am that humanity will last long enough to discover such a mechanism. To be clear, I'd say both are quite likely - I just very much doubt the mechanism actually exists.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by merpnderp »

beefman wrote: post #96

Aliens have never crashed here. Aliens have never even visited our solar system. The truth is more interesting: the galaxy is emptier than it should be.

If you look at all the crazy coincidences that were required for life to develop on Earth, it starts to make sense that we're alone. Single star in the system, need a big Jupiter to block space rocks, our target is a rocky planet close to star, but needs to be hit by an abnormally large moon right as the lithosphere is cooling, ripping out 1/3rd of it so that the planet can have giant continents barely covered with water part of the time, then submerged the rest of the time to the cadence of this moon, oh and has to be the right star type, and etc etc etc.

If it takes something like all that for life to spontaneously erupt, we're likely alone.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by netfortius »

moomoo11 wrote: post #129
orbital-decay wrote: post #104

Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project.

If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Everyone’s already encountered the starting conditions in most other countries. US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. I’m a naturalized US citizen, for example. Could have ended up anywhere but it’s best here in terms of opportunity and making new st…

Assuming they don't check Florida first.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by adventured »

robofanatic wrote: post #137
moomoo11 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Everyone’s already encountered the starting conditions in most other countries. US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. I’m a naturalized US citizen, for example. Could have ended up anywhere but it’s best here in terms of opportunity and making new st…

lol ... you are assuming aliens think like humans. Its almost impossible to tell what aliens consider "baddest mfers" or "insane tech and research".

The most advanced tech and research, as an overall, would be trivial for an advanced alien to decide. And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least.

The notion that it's impossible to figure out whether an advanced alien would think Afghanistan or the US have more advanced tech/research/science, is absurd. And if you can make that distinction, you can keep going.

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