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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#91
Sounds like Grusch is upstanding, but I suspect he's been trolled by the rest of them.

You can just imagine; "hey Eagle, the UFO guy's coming to ask about that UAP report, you know, the one where the IR tracker locked-on to a speck of dust. Let's mention the (nudge, hehe) black-ops alien testing site we saw when we went to file the report"

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

After taking the pilots' accounts on face value, this analysis gave me new insight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs The pilots claim they saw a flying saucer that was rotating in weird ways, and provide a grainy video that's kind of convincing. The analysis proves it was lens flare. There are additional debunked UAP videos released by the military, including one that is lens bokeh around starlight, which…

for context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34746738

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#93
post #15

I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

Are the Navy pilots actual eye witnesses to seeing these crafts or are they eye witnesses to whatever is electronically displayed to their HUDS/Helmets/lenses? It seems every video I've come across, it was all electronic so it has me thinking just a software error.

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#94
post #15

I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

> Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff

Yeah!

I used to work with someone who was a Marine F/A-18 weapons officer (back seat guy; I may have the aircraft type wrong). He knew everything there was to know about air combat & ground attack, but outside that, he was a complete moron. I mean, he seriously believed that we stole aircraft technology from aliens, because "there is no way that humans are that smart."

Let's just say I have my doubts.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#97

Sounds like Grusch is upstanding, but I suspect he's been trolled by the rest of them. You can just imagine; "hey Eagle, the UFO guy's coming to ask about that UAP report, you know, the one where the IR tracker locked-on to a speck of dust. Let's mention the (nudge, hehe) black-ops alien testing site we saw when we went to file the report"

i like that option ;D

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#98
Would anybody with even an ounce of critical thinking faculty believe this even if they explicitly came out and said "yep, we've got aliums, folks"?

There's literally no level of evidence I would accept because the premise is contrary to numerous, basic logical inferences.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

You’re missing 4, which is eye witnesses are reading instruments wrong. “Yes I saw it move impossible in the camera” “Yep you’ve got a speck on your camera. “ This stuff happens all the time mixed with “yeah crazy visual stuff happens” When the alternative is that an unfathomable amount of energy was used to cross a mind boggling amount of space, you need a very bullet proof argument

Perhaps number 5 could be partial hypoxia leading to hallucinations and delusions as it pertains to pilots. I would not be surprised if a pilot swore they saw a Klingon bird of prey.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People lie to Congress all the time without any consequences. That depends more on the political necessity of having a scapegoat/figure to tar and feather than the actual law.

> People lie to Congress all the time without any consequences. Examples?

Mark McGwire
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