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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by gumballindie »

HWR_14 wrote: post #5
gumballindie wrote: post #4

Dont get my hopes high. I have the feeling it will be a disappointment. Also why would aliens only visit the us? Surely other countries would be in possession of alien tech if the us was.

I don't believe that there are any alien vessels, intact or otherwise. But I would imagine that a superpower with global reach and a stealth program could (and would) gather craft before the countries where they were located knew they were there.

> I don't believe that there are any alien vessels, intact or otherwise.

Me neither, but as the saying goes: “i want to believe”. Guaranteed there’s nothing more than a guy that’s either crazy or marketing a book.

> But I would imagine that a superpower with global reach and a stealth program could (and would) gather craft before the countries where they were located knew they were there.

By traveling to china or russia and snatching ufos from right under their nose? I doubt it. I think if anything remotely alien would visit earth everyone would know.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by gumballindie »

jossclimb wrote: post #7
gumballindie wrote: post #4

Dont get my hopes high. I have the feeling it will be a disappointment. Also why would aliens only visit the us? Surely other countries would be in possession of alien tech if the us was.

It's for the same reason when you find yourself being forced to enter a 'state' on a website address form , yet you're not from the US.

Most likely. It find it funny when aliens in movies almost always land in the us. It may be the world’s most awesome country, but wouldnt at least some of these aliens be curious about german beer or south korean food?

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Post by krapp »

jossclimb wrote: post #7
gumballindie wrote: post #4

Dont get my hopes high. I have the feeling it will be a disappointment. Also why would aliens only visit the us? Surely other countries would be in possession of alien tech if the us was.

It's for the same reason when you find yourself being forced to enter a 'state' on a website address form , yet you're not from the US.

Countries besides the US also have states.

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Post by notaustinpowers »

NickC25 wrote: post #8
dumpsterdiver wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No more tithing or mandatory donations to a god when there are now species from another planet coming and going as they please, and are likely thousands of years ahead of us. While certainly there would be tension caused by the canonical issues, I don't think people will stop making pleas to what they perceive as higher powers. I would expect that such a shocking revelation would cause more people to flock to the c…

Yes, but the whole thing about "(insert deity of your choice here) made man in his own image" that seems to be quite prevalent throughout most major religions gets debunked almost immediately if there's some bipedal creature that predates our entire civilization showing up in a hyper-advanced spacecraft. There are no higher powers if someone rolls up being able to do what our current understanding of physics calls ma…

As someone raised southern baptist but no longer religious, they'll just change the meaning behind the phrase.

"He made us in his own image in the sense of our spirit"

"He is imperceivable and therefore He may take many forms" (I.E. when God was a flaming bush)

Or my fave, "He works in mysterious ways".

The church will adapt as it always has for millennias.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by tmn »

I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following:

There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently):

1. These crafts are ET origin

2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar)

3. This is a psyop

Due to the supposed feeds and eye witness accounts, it seems infeasible there is a 'weather balloon' type explanation

Any of these 3 possibilities is very interesting. I have my own take for what is most likely. But I'd like to hear thoughts of others.

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Post by minutillo »

thedangler wrote: post #9

The fact of the matter is the implications if this is real. Which it probably is to a point. Free energy devices and instant travel would decimate the economy that keeps the elite in power. “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.” ― Ben Rich CEO Lockheed Skunk Works

The "source" of that Ben Rich quote is a MUFON article by Tom Keller, more amazing quotes: https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/opinion/editorials/201...

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by markus_zhang »

gumballindie wrote: post #11
HWR_14 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe that there are any alien vessels, intact or otherwise. But I would imagine that a superpower with global reach and a stealth program could (and would) gather craft before the countries where they were located knew they were there.

> I don't believe that there are any alien vessels, intact or otherwise. Me neither, but as the saying goes: “i want to believe”. Guaranteed there’s nothing more than a guy that’s either crazy or marketing a book. > But I would imagine that a superpower with global reach and a stealth program could (and would) gather craft before the countries where they were located knew they were there. By traveling to china or rus…

Maybe Afghanistan? OK this is sci fi materials...

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by d1str0 »

zamadatix wrote: post #10
thedangler wrote: post #9

The fact of the matter is the implications if this is real. Which it probably is to a point. Free energy devices and instant travel would decimate the economy that keeps the elite in power. “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.” ― Ben Rich CEO Lockheed Skunk Works

Why would it decimate the economy and oust those in power when every other new advancement seems to grow the economy and concentrate wealth on those already able to invest in it?

Exactly. You don’t think the US or whatever nation state would absolutely use these technologies to try and conquer the rest of the world or acquire power/money?

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Post by yellow_lead »

tmn wrote: post #15

I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

What about

4. A collection of shadows, mistakes, pilot fatigue, and instrument malfunction?

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by JPLeRouzic »

tmn wrote: post #15

I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

* From another univers (in multivers)

* From deep in Oceans

* From subterranean

* From millions of years in past

* From millions of years in future

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