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Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

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post #34

I hope Lemmy does well, but I don't think it's going to replace Reddit (and that's likely fine in the eyes of the Lemmy team) Nobody wants a federated, slow, difficult to use version of reddit. Nobody wants to choose a server. We just want reddit without the bullshit. It's the same issue with Mastodon. Mastodon is down over 1 million users since last December, and I bet that's related to how difficult it is to sign u…

Forgive my arrogance but how is it physically possible for Lemmy to be slow? It has 3.3k monthly users, you can probably fit the entire lemmyverse on a $10 vps.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#172
post #34

I hope Lemmy does well, but I don't think it's going to replace Reddit (and that's likely fine in the eyes of the Lemmy team) Nobody wants a federated, slow, difficult to use version of reddit. Nobody wants to choose a server. We just want reddit without the bullshit. It's the same issue with Mastodon. Mastodon is down over 1 million users since last December, and I bet that's related to how difficult it is to sign u…

Mastodon's issues are: (1) poor discovery (2) if I am on one mastodon site, I can not just retweet that post, I have to go to my server and then cut-and-paste a link to that other site. (3) no quote tweeting, important for vitality. (4) and most importantly, no ranked/AI-managed feed. Thus it is filled with noise. In many ways, Mastodon is a purposely janked product because people don't want to make things easy to go…

(4) and most importantly, no ranked/AI-managed feed. Thus it is filled with noise.

If you're in control of your feed, and your feed is filled with noise, I wouldn't call that a Mastodon issue.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free speech is only protected from government censorship, not private party censorship. Further, communications platforms are not public forums in the legal sense. Unless, of course, you're advocating for the government to nationalize Twitter et al. That's a whole 'nother conversation.

Why is freedom of association not protected in the same manner? Private freedom of association was ended when the CRA was passed.

Are you referring to the Civil Rights Act? freedom of association is a construct made up by modern nation states and people.

It was never truly freedom. Classes, hierarchy, power, in the modern world order led by the US and western Europe. Fred Hampton was murdered by the racist capitalist government after the CRA passed. Before one can get to any sort of freedoms, one must not be killed by the same state bestowing such freedoms.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#174
I just noticed that lemmy.ml has a 2 day old post saying they're overloaded with users, then the post links to an instance list which shows that lemmy.ml has "1.3k users per month", and the entire lemmyverse only has 3.3k users per month.

This makes me wonder:

1. Are those counters outdated/not live, or does the main lemmy instance really struggle with just 1.3k users per month?

2. Even if the counters are stale and the current numbers are much higher, the thought that a community with just 1.3k users will be able to handle a sudden influx of millions of new users without falling apart seems insane from a moderation/content point of view (even if the servers can handle it)

I don't use reddit, but I would love to see a mass migration away from them to a competitor, as that type of competition is the only thing that can prevent corporations from exploiting customers in the free market. But I have doubts about Lemmy being the answer here.

The last time I remember a mass migration was when Voat was a thing, although that was mostly nazis/assholes nobody wants to talk to anyways. Voat wasn't federated or anything, but IIRC they managed to scale up and survived for a couple of years. Idk if the site operators found investors or anything like that (unlikely due to the user base), but I think that centralized approach is the only way you'll be able to make a lasting dent on a site like reddit.

Imagine if Twitter decided to do a 180 and embrace third party apps and launch their own reddit competitor, to steal third party reddit app users. That would be awful and funny.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#175
post #45
post #34

I hope Lemmy does well, but I don't think it's going to replace Reddit (and that's likely fine in the eyes of the Lemmy team) Nobody wants a federated, slow, difficult to use version of reddit. Nobody wants to choose a server. We just want reddit without the bullshit. It's the same issue with Mastodon. Mastodon is down over 1 million users since last December, and I bet that's related to how difficult it is to sign u…

Exactly. I always thought Mastadon could have been so much more successful if they had just proxied cached versions of the most popular instances through a single larger server. Sure it would give Mastadon the power to pick and choose who it wants to host, but if you want to go join a different instance you are more than welcome to. It would just substantially streamline the process for your mainstream user.

masto not masta

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#176
post #48

IMO the FTC and courts (supreme?) should be stepping in here, and more generally, stating that communications platforms must not censor freedom of speech, nor censor in an anticompettive way. If I want to talk about Hondas on Twitter, Elon should be barred from censoring that. If I want to talk about Bitchute on Youtube, Alphabet must allow that. If I want to use my macbook pro to write windows software, Apple must n…

Doing so would impugn the free speech and property interests of the server owners. Why does Reddit have to host speech that it doesn’t want to? Why does anybody? Why is their right to exclude subject to limitations on the government of the United States when they are a private corporation? If the FTC wants to bring that suit, they can try, but that’s a lot to prove and I don’t think they’ll be able to count to 1, let…

> Why does [should] Reddit have to host speech that it doesn’t want to?

For the same reason that landlords have to continue housing people doing things that the landlord disagrees with. Because they took what was their private dwelling, offered it to the public as housing, and invited in a new party that has their own rights.

I don't really have a dog in the "deplatforming" fight, because I think the sooner we move to decentralized protocols the better. It's just utterly disingenuous to pretend that corporate property deliberately employed to perform services for customers is exactly the same as individually owned private property.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#177
I was banned for saying that Marvel movies were boring in /r/movies. The mods of Reddit are absolutely why it's not an investable company. You can't express an opinion that they disagree with or you're at the whim of totally arbitrary gatekeepers.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#178
post #104

Let me guess; This is one of the accounts that was just posting the same "Migrate to lemmy!" message in every single thread talking about the protest next week. Spam is spam guys.

Not the same message but yeah basically all of their newer posts were about lemmy (and how much better it was, and encouraging people to switch) They also crossposted their post >20 times according to reddit search https://i.imgur.com/scny5VP.png

Yeah, that's what I suspected. Not that Reddit hasn't been having shit moderation, but this looks like it makes sense to be flagged as spam. An overzealous misguided user who desperately looking to get involved. Intentions may have been good, but execution was poor.

IMO the better way to do the same thing would have been to write a post specific to each tool addressing how it could integrate with Lemmy.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#179
post #34

I hope Lemmy does well, but I don't think it's going to replace Reddit (and that's likely fine in the eyes of the Lemmy team) Nobody wants a federated, slow, difficult to use version of reddit. Nobody wants to choose a server. We just want reddit without the bullshit. It's the same issue with Mastodon. Mastodon is down over 1 million users since last December, and I bet that's related to how difficult it is to sign u…

> slow

Not sure if this is problem since Reddit's UI is massively laggin.

Re: Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

#180
Installing Lemmy without Docker or rather their docker-compose has not been possible, despite it being reported since beginning of this year. No matter what version, it doesn't compile because of some file not found error without additional info.

One of the maintainers just arrogantly wrote something like," only the official way is supported". I was following what was written on their documentation. But you can neither have a version installed and compiled by you, or a docker managed service without all the other services of compose. e.g. no local non-docker database.

For me that's a red flag. Ignorance and arrogance. But they want my resources so they can federate content in my hardware on their site. I don't think so.

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