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Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by BasedAnon »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #45
pbj1968 wrote: post #28

None of this is real. Don’t fuck with your brain, pal, it ain’t worth it.

Do you not suffer from how painfully boring reality and the default mode of consciousness are? How can one stand decades of stagnation without the desire to escape?

>Do you not suffer from how painfully boring reality and the default mode of consciousness are?

Maybe its just your default mode of consciousness that's boring.

Yesterday I had a dream where Elon Musk was making blow-up spaceships like balloons and I met Natalie Portman in a crowd of people and told her I hated Trainspotting, also there were Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles at some point but I don't remember why.

One time I had a dream that changed my entire view of reality where I experienced passing into the afterlife as if I were diving into a pool of water and the transition was like touching the surface of the water.

Even during the day time, my brain just produces stuff like this but it's 'behind my eyes', that's where my imagination goes. Sometimes I'll just decide I want the colors to melt, or objects to explode like glass, and I can just do that.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by causi »

LoganDark wrote: post #101
jabbany wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The experience you described is no indicator of whether "volume of thought is still much higher than normal" though? You'd have the exact same experience if the actual mechanism is that "had the label on [your] memories altered". To scientifically test this, you'd need some normalized "benchmark task" of thought, and then compare the difference in progress on such a thought task between the control and psychedelic ca…

> The experience you described is no indicator of whether "volume of thought is still much higher than normal" though? You'd have the exact same experience if the actual mechanism is that "had the label on [your] memories altered". It's not the only evidence I have, but one of the main problems with trying to describe psychedelics is that the experience is... well, indescribable. As in, when I'm not on LSD, I can't e…

I know that while in voice chat with people, I would have moments where I would have a bunch of thoughts, completely forget what just happened, and only a couple seconds of real-world time had passed.

Sounds identical to me on a bad ADHD day.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by goobertime »

batushka3 wrote: post #95
thumbuddy wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, according to people who have done buckets of psychedelics, there's an awful lot more to the psychedelic experience than 2.5-4x slower processing speed. I recall reading of numerous people who found they could collectively slow down a wall clock to the point were it didn't move any longer, and people who have experienced what they refer to as "eternity", "multiple life times", "thousands of years", etc. Also…

What about people who did psychedelics and got severe anxiety, depresion, panic attacks? Why the dark side of using drugs is always forgoten. It feels like cartels invested in PR - upside only.

As someone who now occasionally suffers panic attacks due to psychedelic use, I agree: people downplay the risks because it suits their personal narrative and experience. Perhaps as a pushback against years of over-exaggeration re: risks, per another poster, but nevertheless a definite under emphasis on the dangers these drugs pose.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by jejeyyy77 »

speed_spread wrote: post #71
dieselgate wrote: post #23

This is a very cool post. It’s a bit funny to see the HN crowd polarized with how best to view the messages but doesn’t seem anyone has viewed yet under psychedelics

Yeah let me drop acid in my morning cereal right before the daily scrum. This day's gonna be a fun if unproductive one finding patterns across Confluence pages.

:D

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by BasedAnon »

LoganDark wrote: post #96
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not suffer from how painfully boring reality and the default mode of consciousness are? How can one stand decades of stagnation without the desire to escape?

> Do you not suffer from how painfully boring reality and the default mode of consciousness are? Agree... I'm nearly unable to fantasize properly (dream or daydream what I want), and it's difficult to describe how it makes me feel, but I would probably use something like "fantasy withdrawal". I've gotten pretty upset in the past over it and keep wishing I could find some drug to help me experience the things that I c…

Have you tried watching and listening to harsh noise? Idk if it'd overstimulate you, but it might help you learn to break out of reality. It's also harder to do if you're stressed.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by s1artibartfast »

codeflo wrote: post #51

All the people in this thread who decoded it used long exposure or faster playback. Using the latter, for me, it starts to become readable at 2.5x and is essentially a clear static image at 4x. (I had to download the video and play it back using VLC.) Which for me, makes this claim a bit absurd: > At a theoretical level, this confirmation is significant because it is the first clear demonstration of a real perceptual…

This example is basically adding a low pass signal filter on a signal, not processing speed.

Every electronic device you use requires low pass signal processing to function and transfer information.

It isn't just about speed. A clear image on your TV is a clear advantage over static.

Similarly, there is a clear "computational advantage" to processing data at the right rate it is being transmitted. You can process a binary signal at faster rate than transmission, but 100% of your data will be lost.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by MAGZine »

motohagiography wrote: post #113
codeflo wrote: post #51

All the people in this thread who decoded it used long exposure or faster playback. Using the latter, for me, it starts to become readable at 2.5x and is essentially a clear static image at 4x. (I had to download the video and play it back using VLC.) Which for me, makes this claim a bit absurd: > At a theoretical level, this confirmation is significant because it is the first clear demonstration of a real perceptual…

This is consistent with the idea that the geometric patterns of hallucinogenic drugs are just feedback artifacts in an analog system of your senses, and by imparing its 'clock' signal chemically, you get periodic noise whose geometry is proportional to the signalling frequency and its failures. No higher dimensions, just maybe a lower, impaired, fractal dimension. There are still theraputic uses for this impairment,…

that is a pretty sweeping claim given the limitation of science when it comes to understanding the psychoactive effects of entheogens.

Especially for something like spirituality, which is almost by definition something experienced within.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by dandanua »

redox99 wrote: post #31

You can see the messages if you take a long exposure shot (2s) from your phone Here are the photos from my phone https://imgur.com/a/WOqbQVo

So, psychedelics can give you a longer exposure vision.

It might be useful for looking at stars and galaxies. Not so much for everything else.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by dcow »

solarman5000 wrote: post #100
batushka3 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about people who did psychedelics and got severe anxiety, depresion, panic attacks? Why the dark side of using drugs is always forgoten. It feels like cartels invested in PR - upside only.

What about the poor people who jumped out of windows or in front of traffic while on psychedelics? Oh yeah, that doesn't happen, because the govt has had a decades long monopoly on fear mongering BS when it comes to psychedelics.

One of my friends literally jumped off a balcony on psychedelics and is no longer here. Be careful…
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