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Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by nbaugh1 »

LoganDark wrote: post #90
notamy wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many users don't experience it as such, but in the proper dose, and especially ones first usage of it, can be intensely psychedelic. ime/imo the main reason why it's so uncommon is because you have to go _comically_ far over your tolerance to hit the truly-psychedelic effects, and, as you said, it can be deeply uncomfortable. I've only ever managed to hit truly-psychedelic effects by ex. eating 600mg of RSO with a…

> ime/imo the main reason why it's so uncommon is because you have to go _comically_ far over your tolerance to hit the truly-psychedelic effects, and, as you said, it can be deeply uncomfortable. I tried taking something like 50mg THC once and it just made me feel like my head was imploding for around five hours. No visuals or altered thoughts or anything. Made me conclude that my brain probably just isn't receptive…

That's a pretty high dose if you aren't a regular user. Most of my friends who are very casual with it usually go for 10mg max. Altered visuals on cannabis are very rare, its almost entirely a psychological effect in my experience. As far as altered thoughts - did you think something was physically wrong with you? That paranoia 100% counts

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by myfirstacchere »

Shift your perspective, instead of imagining that the lines are flowing over the black (along the paths with coloured borders), imagine that black stripes are flowing and covering the surface which has something inscribed on it.

So before you can actually start reading the text, you have to actually see the surface, which will in some sense appear as the widening of the lines across the curved flow axis. So the lines start turning into flowing stripes which reveal the surface beneath (full of text and aliens), you then have to try and hold that state.

It is like that spinning balerina.

EDIT: One more thing. The lines flicker, right? Since the "surface" underneath is interchangeably black & white, you must notice that the black stripes have straight borders. This will also make it easier.

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The white lines turn into "stripes revealing the surface underneath" even though when ignoring this, you only observe a white line. For me, if that shift of perspective is possible, then as an observer I can't vouch on the true width of the white lines, because if I switch my perspective, even as slightly as the lines widen, I cannot as a single observer give a definite statement on their width. Video analysis would only empirically confirm it if I stay correct.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by [deleted] »

dvt wrote: post #27

For those that are curious, these are the messages: https://imgur.com/a/y0mXbAk Decoded using: ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -vf tmix=frames=36:weights="1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" output.mp4 ffmpeg -i output.mp4 -vf "curves=all='0/0 0.05/1 1/1'" bright.mp4 We need to use the second command, as frame averaging in ffmpeg lowers luminosity. There's probably a way to cleverly get aroun…

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Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by sayanwita »

lukas099 wrote: post #116
dist-epoch wrote: post #47

> At a theoretical level, this confirmation is significant because it is the first clear demonstration of a real perceptual computational advantage of psychedelic states of consciousness. This is a pretty strong claim, considering that while psychedelic states of consciousness do allow you to see these messages, they also have a lot of other side effects. I'm pretty sure you can do the reverse too, create a message w…

It's not claiming that there's a net advantage.

It should because there is a net advantage coming from this difference. If some problem seems unsolvable in your normal state, try thinking that out in high state. So, at the end, creative tasks become easier as we can easily get two different perspectives for the same problem. Sometimes, it will help, sometimes not much. But the net is always positive because you visit both the states to solve the problem thinking out different possible angles.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by Retric »

red75prime wrote: post #115
jcims wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's opening up a perceptual time domain that is not available in a sober state. That's not 'slower processing speed'.

I quickly looked up research and, yeah, while LSD does impair many cognitive functions, reaction time seems to be unaffected.

It’s presumably extending persistence of vision not slowing reaction time. Seems easy enough to test with revolving wheel/stroboscopic discs.

Which if true, sounds like an artifact from less processing power to me.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by whynaut »

codeflo wrote: post #51

All the people in this thread who decoded it used long exposure or faster playback. Using the latter, for me, it starts to become readable at 2.5x and is essentially a clear static image at 4x. (I had to download the video and play it back using VLC.) Which for me, makes this claim a bit absurd: > At a theoretical level, this confirmation is significant because it is the first clear demonstration of a real perceptual…

Shameful such a short-sighted conclusion sits at the top of HN.

Re: Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

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Post by swader999 »

speed_spread wrote: post #71
dieselgate wrote: post #23

This is a very cool post. It’s a bit funny to see the HN crowd polarized with how best to view the messages but doesn’t seem anyone has viewed yet under psychedelics

Yeah let me drop acid in my morning cereal right before the daily scrum. This day's gonna be a fun if unproductive one finding patterns across Confluence pages.

Don't do that, I already put it in the team water jug.
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