It honestly feels like they've neutered it in a big way. They say nothing has changed, yet the responses come faster and are far less in depth and insightful than before. It's obviously changed...
Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#812My guess is that -probably no. It's more likely you had a stream of good luck in your earlier interactions and now you're observing regression to the mean. That can easily happen and it's why, for example, medical studies, are not taken as definitive proof of an effect. To further clarify, regression to the mean is the inevitable consequence of statistical error. Suppose (classic example) we want to test a hypertensi…
How's that copium going for you? It's 100% without a shadow of a doubt gotten worse. Likely due to the insane costs they're experiencing now due to big players like Bing using it.
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#813Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not about honesty vs. political correctness, it is about safety. There's real concern that the model can cause harm to humans, in a variety of ways, which is and should be unethical. If we have to argue about that in 2023, that's concerning.
AI safety should be properly concerned with not becoming a paperclip maximizer. This is a concern completely orthogonal to the way alignment is being done now, which is to spare as many precious human feelings as possible. I don't know what's worse, being turned into grey goo by a malicious AGI, or being turned into a five year old to protect my precious fragile feelings by an "aligned" AGI.
One of the most widely used novel AI technology companies has a vested interest in public safety, if not only for the sheer business reasons of branding. People are complaining about the steps that Open AI is taking towards alignment. Sam Altman has spoken at length about how difficult that task truly is, and is obviously aware that "alignment" isn't objective or even at all similar across different cultures.
What should be painfully obvious to all the smart people on Hacker News is that this technology has very high potential to cause material harm to many human beings. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't continue to develop it. I'm arguing that these people complaining about Open AI's attempts at making it safer--i.e. "SF liberal bros are makin it woke"--are just naive, don't actually care, and just have shitty politics.
It's the same people that say "keep politics out of X", but their threshold for something being political is right around everybody else's threshold for "basic empathy".
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#814Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not about honesty vs. political correctness, it is about safety. There's real concern that the model can cause harm to humans, in a variety of ways, which is and should be unethical. If we have to argue about that in 2023, that's concerning.
The "It is for your own safety" argument was already bogus years ago. Bringing it back up in the context of AI and claiming this is something we shouldn't even discuss is a half-assed attempt to shut up critics. Just because something is about "children" or "safety" doesnt automatically end the argument there. Actually, these are mostly strawman arguments.
I'm not trying to shut up critics, just the morons calling ChatGPT "woke".
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#815Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not about honesty vs. political correctness, it is about safety. There's real concern that the model can cause harm to humans, in a variety of ways, which is and should be unethical. If we have to argue about that in 2023, that's concerning.
That's just not true. Treat adults as adults, please. You're not everybody's babysitter and neither are the sf bros.
Treat adults as adults? You act like the user base for this are a handful of completely benevolent people. It's getting over a billion monthly visits. It is naive to think that OpenAI should take no steps towards making it safe.
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#816Why is the 'problematic' data in the training set, anyways? Why train a model on it if it's an issue?
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#817I agree. The quality got MUCH more worse. I'm very disappointed and probably will cancel my subscription. For my use case it got nearly useless...