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Re: Apple Vision predictive bio-feedback

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

makeitdouble wrote: post #7

This whole tweet had the same tone as when pop science crime investigation TV explains a criminal can be identified through its gait alone. It's always magic, except when the predictive model doesn't work and there is no corrective action possible on the user side. We're talking about physical reactions, so that means it's supposed to be the same through gender, age, race, health conditions from the algorithm's point…

As usual, people will try to use workarounds. For missing ports on my Mac Book Pro, I use a hub. For connecting my AKG headset to my iPhone, I use a dongle. I guess sooner or later Apple will make available a kind of API for device makers to make it possible to interact with the content in ways different that eyeballs tracking.

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

thih9 wrote: post #5
kasperni wrote: post #2

> So, a user is in a mixed reality or virtual reality experience, and AI models are trying to predict if you are feeling curious, mind wandering, scared, paying attention, remembering a past experience, or some other cognitive state. And these may be inferred through measurements like eye tracking, electrical activity in the brain, heart beats and rhythms, muscle activity, blood density in the brain, blood pressure,…

There is more: > Other tricks to infer cognitive state involved quickly flashing visuals or sounds to a user in ways they may not perceive, and then measuring their reaction to it.

And still, there will be people who will happily pay for it.

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Post by kossTKR »

I can't really grasp how enormous this project is.

5000 patents filed from Apple is crazy, and looking at the thing with all of these new both pieces of hardware and concepts, wow.

How many people have been working on this, and for how long? The other threads here seems to have missed just how "huge" a projects this is.

Is this also the lead up to the Apple car, or some other ecosystem?

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Post by seydor »

I know we all hate each other but is this like a good direction for the future? Directing all our emotions to silicon chips? Maybe there is other things we should be building.

Emotion recognition is an old field but (apart from autism research) the only application i can think of is emotion manipulation. How does one wake up in the morning and decide to work on consumer emotion recognition

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Post by seydor »

kasperni wrote: post #2

> So, a user is in a mixed reality or virtual reality experience, and AI models are trying to predict if you are feeling curious, mind wandering, scared, paying attention, remembering a past experience, or some other cognitive state. And these may be inferred through measurements like eye tracking, electrical activity in the brain, heart beats and rhythms, muscle activity, blood density in the brain, blood pressure,…

I d think those are detectable from facial expression alone. There is also EEG as a possibility

Re: Apple Vision predictive bio-feedback

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Post by seydor »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #6
stby wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This quickly becomes creepy beyond my wildest imaginations. Kill it with fire, please.

Why? The more personal a device is and the closer it becomes to interfacing with who we are, the more it will need to do things like this to work, else it will just feel off.

You have emotions , the device does not. No matter how we pretend to ignore it, the ability to empathize and embody the emotions of others separates us from machines. Even if they emulate it, i know they are fake (yes, i am being a machine-racist here)

Re: Apple Vision predictive bio-feedback

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Post by rmm »

kasperni wrote: post #2

> So, a user is in a mixed reality or virtual reality experience, and AI models are trying to predict if you are feeling curious, mind wandering, scared, paying attention, remembering a past experience, or some other cognitive state. And these may be inferred through measurements like eye tracking, electrical activity in the brain, heart beats and rhythms, muscle activity, blood density in the brain, blood pressure,…

I wonder how much they can plug into the new “autocorrect” system in iOS? Ok user heart rate is low and at baseline, they probably were trying to say “I could give a flying duck”…

Pupils dilated, heart rate racing, therefore “duck” may not be the right word..

Re: Apple Vision predictive bio-feedback

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Post by rmm »

kossTKR wrote: post #13

I can't really grasp how enormous this project is. 5000 patents filed from Apple is crazy, and looking at the thing with all of these new both pieces of hardware and concepts, wow. How many people have been working on this, and for how long? The other threads here seems to have missed just how "huge" a projects this is. Is this also the lead up to the Apple car, or some other ecosystem?

Exactly. I know many people are upset that this will lead to patent soup resulting in less innovation or competition, which may very well be the case, but it shows also how much they haven’t just put high res glasses and a fast chip in a headset, but really tried to push the limits and leap past everyone with their first offering

Re: Apple Vision predictive bio-feedback

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Post by Dalewyn »

kossTKR wrote: post #13

I can't really grasp how enormous this project is. 5000 patents filed from Apple is crazy, and looking at the thing with all of these new both pieces of hardware and concepts, wow. How many people have been working on this, and for how long? The other threads here seems to have missed just how "huge" a projects this is. Is this also the lead up to the Apple car, or some other ecosystem?

>The other threads here seems to have missed just how "huge" a projects this is.

The other threads are busy jumping on the Hate Apple bandwagon, is what it is.

I have my own criticism of Apple's VR goggle, specifically that its form factor (albeit necessitated by today's technologies) drags the whole thing down in both the luxury/fashion and usage factors.

But if I put that aside, the technology and innovative thoughts crammed into that thing is potentially groundbreakingly amazing if the marketing is truthful and accurate. Even the $3500 price tag, which yes is bloody expensive, doesn't sound unreasonable given most other "cheaper" VR goggles still require a mothership costing about the same anyway.

I wish Apple success here, because the VR industry needs someone to come in and kickstart it back to something interesting and worthy of attention.

...I also admit I wouldn't mind seeing all the haters getting put out to dry for their noisy trouble, but maybe that's beside the point. :V

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