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Mastodon is not P2P/decentralized, it's federated.
> Mastodon is not P2P/decentralized Mastodon is decentralized, because there is no central server. However, it is not distributed .
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Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative
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It basically scrapes reddit.com's HTML. Doesn't use the official API at all (that would defeat the purpose).
Impressive feat! Does reddit have rate limiting, or other hurdles in place similar to the hoops youtube-dl has to jump through? Curious what your thoughts are about maintaining a project like that.
I've only done some rudimentary rate limiting checks and it doesn't seem like they do. Though I haven't pushed it far (~1000 rpm).
In any case, my plan is to deal with it if it becomes a problem.
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#194Musk claims the only solution to bots in 2023 is paid accounts. I kinda agree with him. There is no captcha that's going to keep out determined spammers. Even reddit is filled with bots. You either try to eliminate bots through paid accounts, real ID verification... Or you filter based on quality of content (ie. bots are allowed to post, as long as what they say and do is indistinguishable from a human - like reddit…
I think a solution to bot accounts could be a referal system. Everyone who signs up needs to be referred by another person. If the new user has negative impact on the platform, all parent users on the referal chain lose some sort of trust.
Users can set a "trust" threshold and all content they see is filtered through that lens. It's like an automatic twitter block based on an algorithm.
Also people would ask the people they refer to the platform to please not do bad things so they can preserve their "trust" rating.
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#195Every time I see social media recreated in a decentralised fashion I realise why the successful ones are centralised. The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. In any case, it sounds like we'll be getting many new Reddit clones so I may as well plug what I've built recently: a Reddit alternative API that is free. Check it out if you're…
Is the reddiw code open source? I imagine if your project sees any substantial usage, it won't be too long before you receive a cease and desist.
Not at the minute. I might open source it in the future, especially if I get a cease and desist. Though hopefully even if it comes to that someone like the EFF will help me fight it.
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#196Every time I see social media recreated in a decentralised fashion I realise why the successful ones are centralised. The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. In any case, it sounds like we'll be getting many new Reddit clones so I may as well plug what I've built recently: a Reddit alternative API that is free. Check it out if you're…
So like libreddit (sp?) and teddit, another readonly scraper, the real API supports write access.
Yep, very similar. My guess is that ~80% of API usage is read-only, so covering this should reduce API costs significantly for developers.
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You don't need to agree to TOS to scrape a public website, what they write in it is moot.
Reddit may not be a public website for long. They push their app and ask for logging in so often, it wouldn’t surprise me if they shut off parts of the site for not logged in users.
True, though that will seriously hurt their SEO.
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#198Every time I see social media recreated in a decentralised fashion I realise why the successful ones are centralised. The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. In any case, it sounds like we'll be getting many new Reddit clones so I may as well plug what I've built recently: a Reddit alternative API that is free. Check it out if you're…
For the GET /r/:subreddit/comments/:article endpoint, is there a limit to the amount of comments returned? If yes, how is it determined which get returned? Sorted by top? Best?
Yeah, currently the limit is 50 comments. I plan to implement the ability to choose a sort and limit, assuming the API actually gets some usage. Right now the sort is whatever the new.reddit.com default is.
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#199It's weird to use the name "plebbit" considering that's the derogatory term for Reddit used by 4chan folk. It's like begging for this to be a dumping ground for some of the worst human behaviors. Does the decentralized nature mean that illegal content can't be easily be removed?
I recommend the parent and all sibling commentators carefully revaluate their biases in light of this project as a singular topic. It will greatly benefit the understanding of context (somewhat unintuitively -- the terminology is adopted as lingua franca from a reactionary anonymous amalgam, not necessarily tied to the original intent or event).
the name will set a vibe that attracts the specific crowd. since its a new site that initial user base will set the tone of what the web site will shape into.
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I don't really find Mastodon that slow. I do think it's got a lot, lot of sharp edges that need smoothing out before it's really viable. But speed isn't a problem, and it's decentralised.
Nitter page: full page layout with all text loads in about half a second, images load in the next three https://nitter.it/rauschma Mastodon page: requires unblocking JavaScript, takes one second just to load the basic layout (without post contents), then takes four to ELEVEN seconds to fully load https://fosstodon.org/@rauschma I expected better.
> https://fosstodon.org/@rauschma
Took between 1.2 and 1.8s for a full fresh load, for me.