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Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Every time I see social media recreated in a decentralised fashion I realise why the successful ones are centralised. The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. In any case, it sounds like we'll be getting many new Reddit clones so I may as well plug what I've built recently: a Reddit alternative API that is free. Check it out if you're…

I don't really find Mastodon that slow. I do think it's got a lot, lot of sharp edges that need smoothing out before it's really viable. But speed isn't a problem, and it's decentralised.

Mastodon is not P2P/decentralized, it's federated.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're just describing YouTube with extra steps. Decentralization is a meme, the great majority of consumers don't care. People used Morpheus because it was an easy way to watch (free) movies, not because it was decentralized. Now they use Netflix because it's an easy (and relatively cheap) way to watch movies, not because it's centralized. Besides, Matrix already has p2p chat, IRC has always been a thing, and so on,…

Hopefully, for the consumer it would be no different than YouTube or Netflix. Unless you don't want ads, then you pay your dues. I have no idea how the experience would vary for the advertisers. For the producer it should offer more flexibility in how they get paid. This is the major selling point I think . The ability to put out a high effort video -- say you made a full length movie -- and be able to charge theater…

Wow, as a consumer I am really sold on this model! You tell me I will pay theater prices and get ad interruptions throughout the show? This is fantastic, sign me up. /s

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The content you’ve linked really does a good job at showing how completely decentralized P2P social media is a terrible, terrible idea.

Please don't snarkily dismiss someone's work. If you want to contribute constructively, there are plenty of other ways to bring this point. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

One of the first posts I saw was the N word over and over

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Musk claims the only solution to bots in 2023 is paid accounts. I kinda agree with him. There is no captcha that's going to keep out determined spammers. Even reddit is filled with bots. You either try to eliminate bots through paid accounts, real ID verification... Or you filter based on quality of content (ie. bots are allowed to post, as long as what they say and do is indistinguishable from a human - like reddit…

I think explicit & transitive trust is a strategy worth exploring. If you trust accounts made by people that you know personally, and you transitively trust the people that they trust (say... five hops). That's going to be a significant portion of humanity.

If you start getting a little spam, you explicitly revoke trust in the spammers. If you get a lot of spam, revoke trust in whoever you trusted that trusted the spammers, etc. A little bit of social graph hygiene ought to go a long way against spam, so long as we're trusting people and not platforms. We're practiced at one of those and not the other.

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This might be a rather obvious and stupid suggestion, but why don't all the 3rd party apps just get together, agree on a "new reddit" and move to that. If their users are more loyal to the app than to reddit, problem solved. It just can't be that hard to hack together a nested newsgroup-like system in this day and age.

Spinning up the backends that are strong enough to support the load that the 3rd party apps put on it isn't a trivial undertaking. Note also that many of the apps were designed to not have advertising or monthly subscription costs. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca... > Apollo made 7 billion requests last month What does it cost to stand up that server? Establish the core group needed to mo…

7 billion averages to about 2300/sec and most of that is reads. I also looked at the requests appolo makes and it polls the inbox a lot. The only maybe difficult part is paying for storage. But this isn't large scale at that size, scaling is solved anyway.

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Every time I see social media recreated in a decentralised fashion I realise why the successful ones are centralised. The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. In any case, it sounds like we'll be getting many new Reddit clones so I may as well plug what I've built recently: a Reddit alternative API that is free. Check it out if you're…

Is the reddiw code open source? I imagine if your project sees any substantial usage, it won't be too long before you receive a cease and desist.
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