Aaand its down
Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative
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#112This might be a rather obvious and stupid suggestion, but why don't all the 3rd party apps just get together, agree on a "new reddit" and move to that. If their users are more loyal to the app than to reddit, problem solved. It just can't be that hard to hack together a nested newsgroup-like system in this day and age.
Spinning up the backends that are strong enough to support the load that the 3rd party apps put on it isn't a trivial undertaking. Note also that many of the apps were designed to not have advertising or monthly subscription costs. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca... > Apollo made 7 billion requests last month What does it cost to stand up that server? Establish the core group needed to mo…
Fair enough, it's not a trivial undertaking and I suspect reddit knows that as part of their shakedown strategy.
I still feel like the various protests going on indicate the space is absolutely ripe for an alternative and being a bad alternative might just be good enough.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
It basically scrapes reddit.com's HTML. Doesn't use the official API at all (that would defeat the purpose).
Impressive feat! Does reddit have rate limiting, or other hurdles in place similar to the hoops youtube-dl has to jump through? Curious what your thoughts are about maintaining a project like that.
As history has shown, you can only do so much to stop this. If you perfectly mimic the GoogleBot and use google IP ranges by hosting on google cloud, they either take an SEO hit or let you bot them at the end of the day. GoogleBot looks like a DDoS attack a lot of the time too
You can also go the route of looking like a pool of users, then it's just a game of cat and mouse and one providers don't really have time to play
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#114I don't think technology is the problem here. Rather, it is the evergreen gullibility of humans, showing their willingness to trust their communities and memories and volunteerism to corporations which then seize control of everything. We had a P2P and open source Reddit alternative 40 years ago, called Usenet. But people fell for a centralized one run by a company once it came along, like they always do. May Reddit'…
Perhaps now is the right time to revamp Usenet to bring it up to par with the Reddit of today. I am also thinking that email / mail lists, forums, and even old protocols like finger and gopher are all worthy of upgrades, and these were all small parts of a true proven p2p, decentralized, self-hosted social networking environment and may even enjoy a new popularity, if developers work on modernizing them.
Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative
#115I don't think technology is the problem here. Rather, it is the evergreen gullibility of humans, showing their willingness to trust their communities and memories and volunteerism to corporations which then seize control of everything. We had a P2P and open source Reddit alternative 40 years ago, called Usenet. But people fell for a centralized one run by a company once it came along, like they always do. May Reddit'…
I agree.
A lot of people seem to believe that centralization is the problem, and ignore Wikipedia, which has been true to its mission far longer than Reddit or Twitter have, and it never needed a decentralized model. The simple explanation is that it's the profit motive that is the problem. That can be fixed with the proper organizational structure.
I wish the Mozilla Foundation would stand up Reddit and Twitter clones. I bet they would be more usable on Day 1 than the Fediverse solutions.
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#116Every time I see social media recreated in a decentralised fashion I realise why the successful ones are centralised. The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. In any case, it sounds like we'll be getting many new Reddit clones so I may as well plug what I've built recently: a Reddit alternative API that is free. Check it out if you're…
> The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. It's easy enough to centralize a caching layer, perhaps through a popular CDN.
Caching is not easy for something like Reddit, where everyone has a personalized feed.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does your non official API work? Is it using the official API and caching, redirecting to the website, and transforming it into json? I'm just curious.
It basically scrapes reddit.com's HTML. Doesn't use the official API at all (that would defeat the purpose).
That doesn't sound like it's going to be a stable API? I'm not sure there is much you can do though.
Edit: yea after looking at this, it definitely appears to violate the TOS. Also this seems like a huge red flag just begging reddit to shut it down: "Unlike with the Reddit API you do not need to authenticate using OAuth."
Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative
#118I don't think technology is the problem here. Rather, it is the evergreen gullibility of humans, showing their willingness to trust their communities and memories and volunteerism to corporations which then seize control of everything. We had a P2P and open source Reddit alternative 40 years ago, called Usenet. But people fell for a centralized one run by a company once it came along, like they always do. May Reddit'…
usenet didn't have a karma system
Sure it does, that's why people PGP-sign their posts.
Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative
#119The first post I saw on this site was an anti-trans post using some really offensive terms. I did not bother exploring further.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. It's easy enough to centralize a caching layer, perhaps through a popular CDN.
Caching is not easy for something like Reddit, where everyone has a personalized feed.
Couldn't you say the same of Mastodon?