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Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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I agree. I was really impressed that even with regard to the Autocorrect update, they used technical terms like "transformer model" without using hype words. They very clearly labeled it as a predictive text engine rather than some magical pseudo-sentient enigma or something.

Why were you impressed by that? WWDC is a developer's conference. I bet many developers would have been offended if they were told AI is some enigma.

cough. Google I/O. cough

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The best thing about this whole event is that they didn't mention AI even once, all they're saying is ML. Which is what it is. AI is a hype word.

Why would they mention their weakness? Have you heard of Siri lately? What do they have to offer in the AI space? Nothing. At best they can contribute to ML by hardware. With that said. ML != AI. ML is a means to AI. Google, Facebook can talk about AI. They have Bard, Llama to show off. I'm sure Apple is furiously working behind the scene trying to catch up and if they do, they will be sure to be noisy about it.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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The best thing about this whole event is that they didn't mention AI even once, all they're saying is ML. Which is what it is. AI is a hype word.

I agree. I was really impressed that even with regard to the Autocorrect update, they used technical terms like "transformer model" without using hype words. They very clearly labeled it as a predictive text engine rather than some magical pseudo-sentient enigma or something.

Apple marketing uses weasel words all the time.

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Would you mind expanding a bit on your experiences with running linux on mac hardware? Especially the M1, what is your daily experience like? Any pain points or gotchas? Reason for my question is that I used to run linux on the mac as well (10 years ago), and I love the hardware. I don't think there is anything that even comes close hardware-wise. But currently I am on mac os, well, because it works basically ;) But…

Of course - I have a blog post detailing that here: https://jasoneckert.github.io/myblog/ultimate-linux-arm64-wo...

Damn, the Asahi team has done God's work

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Nvidia gpus haven't been supported by Macs for a long time. Apple and Nvidia relations are not good for some reason.

https://blog.greggant.com/posts/2021/10/13/apple-vs-nvidia-w... Nvidia had a knack for putting Apple into difficult situations.

I think Apple is afraid of the AI people switching to CUDA and neglecting Apple's own accelerators. Whatever the case is, it's entirely petty - Nvidia still ships FreeBSD drivers and would probably gladly pick up Apple support again (at least for CUDA drivers).

If it was as simple as "Nvidia was an unreliable hardware partner", they wouldn't go out of their way to arbitrarily limit the drivers you can run.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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I’ve been draggggggiiinnngggg my feet on a new desktop workstation. Waiting for the store to come back to truly make a decision but I think that I’m gonna go for a Studio. The hacker in me wants to build a beefy Linux workstation but the pragmatist in me wants a machine that just works. I think the Apple tax is worth it here.

At the rate that Asahi Linux is making the desktop models work on Arch, you might be able to have both if you wait a bit

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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I’ve been draggggggiiinnngggg my feet on a new desktop workstation. Waiting for the store to come back to truly make a decision but I think that I’m gonna go for a Studio. The hacker in me wants to build a beefy Linux workstation but the pragmatist in me wants a machine that just works. I think the Apple tax is worth it here.

One option is to use macOS as Linux VM launcher. You won't lose much computing power, you'll have perfect driver situation, you'll have x86 compatibility with Rosetta, you'll have VM versatility with disk snapshots.

That's an interesting option. Can you get direct GPU passthrough similar to what is offered with CUDA & WSL(g) on Windows?

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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I’ve been draggggggiiinnngggg my feet on a new desktop workstation. Waiting for the store to come back to truly make a decision but I think that I’m gonna go for a Studio. The hacker in me wants to build a beefy Linux workstation but the pragmatist in me wants a machine that just works. I think the Apple tax is worth it here.

I'm pretty certain you can buy yourself a Linux workstation that just works. ThreadRipper, ECC, NVidia proprietary drivers. Put Fedora on it. The trouble is leaving it alone and not messing with it after you get it going.

Curious - why do you suggest fedora? I'm familiar with ubuntu/debian and arch, but have never delved into why fedora/redhat/centos/rocky.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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I think this new Mac Pro is more geared for PCIe developers so they can start testing drivers etc and the big launch will be with the M3. It really doesn't offer any huge benefits over the Mac Studio.

How many pcie developers are there anyway?

Apple had a renaissance with the old pre-2013 mac pro, and mostly people used pcie to add graphics cards to their system. the 2013 mac pro sort of offhand killed that with its mediocrity.

But nowadays it seems like graphics cards would need non-trivial OS support, so who would put together pcie cards for macos?

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