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Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by dangerlibrary »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #56
RobotToaster wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's stopping a determined spammer paying for accounts?

> What's stopping a determined spammer paying for accounts? Paid accounts adds a significant overhead to the spamming. Spammers just don't spam for the sake of it, they want to sell people something, legal or not. It's one thing to buy millions of spam accounts for $100 on the dark web. It's another to have to spend $5 bucks a month per account on millions of accounts...

For nation-state actors looking to spread disinformation, paid accounts are effectively free.

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by dom96 »

Every time I see social media recreated in a decentralised fashion I realise why the successful ones are centralised. The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P.

In any case, it sounds like we'll be getting many new Reddit clones so I may as well plug what I've built recently: a Reddit alternative API that is free. Check it out if you're a dev that is being caught out by the Reddit pricing changes[1].

1 - https://api.reddiw.com

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by George83728 »

jeroenhd wrote: post #10

I don't know why but this somehow taxes my CPU more than the official Reddit site, which is kind of impressive in a way. The theme itself is a good Reddit replica, but I don't think IPFS has the necessary performance to run apps like these. Maybe it can live become a Lemmy frontend for the FOSS/fediverse crowd?

The number of third party domains this site needs to hit to even load any posts on the front page is insane. I'm looking at a list of domains like "etherscan", ipfs gateways, pokt... all kinds of shady sounding bullshit and it isn't at all clear to me what I would need to whitelist to get this site to work: http://0x0.st/Hbkj.jpg

Yes I know this is "my fault" for being a weirdo who doesn't blindly let his browser hit any server a website pleases. But I use this to judge the quality of a website, the care and professionalism that was put into it. This plebbit site is awful by this metric even compared to new reddit; with new reddit merely whitelisting *.reddit.com is sufficient to view a list of posts, and whitelisting 3 more domains (all clearly reddit-affiliated: redd.it, redditmedia.com and redditstatic.com) is enough to make the site behave as it should.

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by George83728 »

Diti wrote: post #23

Not compatible with the fediverse? I’ll stay on Lemmy.

Is it true that Lemmy censors casual profanity like "bitch"? I first heard of Lemmy a few days ago, in the context of somebody dismissing it because it allegedly performs such censorship.

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by Acrobatic_Road »

George83728 wrote: post #63
jeroenhd wrote: post #10

I don't know why but this somehow taxes my CPU more than the official Reddit site, which is kind of impressive in a way. The theme itself is a good Reddit replica, but I don't think IPFS has the necessary performance to run apps like these. Maybe it can live become a Lemmy frontend for the FOSS/fediverse crowd?

The number of third party domains this site needs to hit to even load any posts on the front page is insane. I'm looking at a list of domains like "etherscan", ipfs gateways, pokt... all kinds of shady sounding bullshit and it isn't at all clear to me what I would need to whitelist to get this site to work: http://0x0.st/Hbkj.jpg Yes I know this is "my fault" for being a weirdo who doesn't blindly let his browser hit…

its just a bunch of IPFS and ETH gateways. I haven't tried it myself, but I think there's a desktop application you can install that connects to IPFS natively. I don't know if they're running their own ETH node, but probably not.

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by londons_explore »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #53
londons_explore wrote: post #47

Musk claims the only solution to bots in 2023 is paid accounts. I kinda agree with him. There is no captcha that's going to keep out determined spammers. Even reddit is filled with bots. You either try to eliminate bots through paid accounts, real ID verification... Or you filter based on quality of content (ie. bots are allowed to post, as long as what they say and do is indistinguishable from a human - like reddit…

> Whats the anti-spam plan? User moderation in focused spaces! Its the same reason Discord/Telegram kind of works, the same reason small niche subreddits (and Hacker News) are still OK, the same reason dedicated game servers are so much nicer than public matchmaking in video games... They have a hierarchy of users who are motivated and empowered to police their own reasonably sized niche space. Twitter can't do this,…

> User moderation in focused spaces!

Remember the bots can make their own spaces too... And then lure real users in with a bunch of chatgpt-like and/or stolen content...

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by Acrobatic_Road »

estebanabaroa wrote: post #20
dabluecaboose wrote: post #9

Is there any settings to not make it look like new reddit? If I was building a new site I wouldn't copy the godawful empty space design they forced on everyone

We have an imageboard interface https://plebchan.netlify.app/ and currently working on an old.reddit interface. Other interfaces that are planned are stackexchange, discourse and vbulletin. The protocol is completely open and the code open source. Anyone can make any number of interoperable interfaces.

you might want to copy the teddit interface too

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by smt88 »

dom96 wrote: post #62

Every time I see social media recreated in a decentralised fashion I realise why the successful ones are centralised. The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P. In any case, it sounds like we'll be getting many new Reddit clones so I may as well plug what I've built recently: a Reddit alternative API that is free. Check it out if you're…

> The loading times of this are dreadful and I don't see how you'll be able to solve that problem when you're relying on P2P.

It's easy enough to centralize a caching layer, perhaps through a popular CDN.

Re: Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative

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Post by johnnyanmac »

AHOHA wrote: post #40

People are arguing about the contents, which is kind of shallow, it can be always managed in some way later. I’m more interested in the technicality, what’s the protocol, the architecture, how file are saved and served, encrypted? How about the minimum X to run the service, is it P2P as in all clients serve or only select few nodes? Who manages and operates these nodes? Is it a honeypot? Among others. Regardless, It’…

Ultimately a young site lives and dies on community. So I understand why. The average person looking for a site to talk on isn't concerned about the tech stack underneath. just that the experience is smooth.
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