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Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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The + would have been removed from the Chrome UI because it reduces Google's claim to the "+" mark in their Google+ branding. Google wants people to think "Google+" when they see a button with a + on it (not "create new tab").

Relevant bug report/feedback, code review and commit references (that don't make any mention of why the change was made):

[1] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=98264

[2] https://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision...

[3] http://codereview.chromium.org/8271006

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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post #10

The + would have been removed from the Chrome UI because it reduces Google's claim to the "+" mark in their Google+ branding. Google wants people to think "Google+" when they see a button with a + on it (not "create new tab").

I think of addition and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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Has anyone else been confused by the fact that in gmail when you are viewing an email there are two buttons with arrows pointing up and to the left. One takes you back to the inbox and the other replies to the email. One is curvy the other has a right angle. One is on the left and one is on the right. Neither have labels. Can I go back to the old design now please.

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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The new gmail is awful compared with the old one. But worse for me is the search results with that stupid screenshot popup and the way they have put cached view in it. I thought they had removed cached view altogether until I read somewhere that it had moved.

Dave

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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He's spot on. The removal of the plus to create a new tab in Chrome is bad design, period.

I hadn't noticed the lack of the logo link until someone else pointed it out. Why would anyone reduce ease of navigation, particularly from an object that is going to be there anyway?

I use Gmail as my main email application, and have since they first launched it. They've started to annoy me with the interface changes. I think they've lost some of the intuitive simplicity that made Gmail great. It feels about 10% like Yahoo's extraordinarily horrific web email, and that's a big step down.

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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I'm most confused about Google's decision to remove the links from the logos. This is a convention engrained in the interwebs and I can't come up with a single reason why they would change it. Sure maybe inexperienced users wouldn't know the functionality exists, but when has that ever been a reason to remove a feature? I think there was a HN discussion about this recently, but I missed it. Anybody know why they made…

I believe this is one step in transitioning away from 'pages' to something more like apps, where they load and you interact with them through UI and state instead of links. They've already made it basically a requirement to have JavaScript enabled on their sites (for instance Google + is just a blank page without JS), and if you read the Dart leaked memo they seem deathly afraid of smartphone/tablet apps.

Seems believable to me anyway... for instance I read mail almost entirely on my phone now and never log into the gmail.com. Since I'm not using their mail app I never see their ads.

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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I was more annoyed by the little head to the left of the tabs in Chrome which indicates the current profile. I don't use profiles. But I've just discovered that the head goes away if you delete the sample profiles that they created when they added the feature. Duh.

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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> First up is the 'new tab' chicklet in the Chrome tab bar. Somewhere around Chrome 16 the '+' disappeared from it, leaving a little ghost of a button that, to my mind, wouldn't be recognized for what it was by a user who hadn't already formed their mental model on earlier versions of Chrome. I'd noticed this and it was very irritating! I assumed it was a bug and for whatever reason the image was missing, not that th…

I also thought this was a bug, and that my Mac was having trouble loading the resource for the +.

WTF. :)

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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> First up is the 'new tab' chicklet in the Chrome tab bar. Somewhere around Chrome 16 the '+' disappeared from it, leaving a little ghost of a button that, to my mind, wouldn't be recognized for what it was by a user who hadn't already formed their mental model on earlier versions of Chrome. I'd noticed this and it was very irritating! I assumed it was a bug and for whatever reason the image was missing, not that th…

I thought it was some kind of problem with my custom skin, so I removed it. It didn't help so I reinstalled Chrome and after that googled for some time to find fix for it.

Re: Kevin Fox on recent Google UX changes: from strange-to-me to just-plain-crazy

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post #12
post #10

The + would have been removed from the Chrome UI because it reduces Google's claim to the "+" mark in their Google+ branding. Google wants people to think "Google+" when they see a button with a + on it (not "create new tab").

I think of addition and I don't see that changing any time soon.

I don't see why that would stop them for trying. For instance, search and Google are interchangeable in many discussions. ;)

The above is a bit tongue in cheek. That said, I see where grandparent is coming from. Chrome is Google's web-browser, and these Google+ icons are very often near the top of your browser. I can see how they could come to the conclusion that this could save some confusion. Say, friend calls to help and says "Click the plus sign at the top of your browser"...

Now, I don't think it's a good (or bad) decision. But the fact that I cannot click the logotypes is annoying me to no end.

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