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Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, I haven't seen a load of claims about how this is "insane" or "horrible" within the context of this article. It just provides a useful instruction as to how those that wish to opt-out, may do so. It's fine that you don't see how this matters but it does matter to some and having the choice and understanding how to exercise that choice is essential.

Apologies. I wasn't referring to this article in particular, but the hype in general over Google's changing privacy policies.

Fair enough. I do get your point - people seem to go mad about privacy in general. It does sometimes feel (to me) like people aren't as bothered about it with Google as they are with Apple, Amazon or Facebook, but maybe that's just me.

No need to apologise, wasn't trying to call you out or anything, just felt like this was one of the few posts I've read that doesn't whine too much about it.

Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

#42

When I go to https://google.com/history while logged into my google mail account, I get redirected to https://www.google.com/ The redirected Google home page clearly shows me as logged in. Am I doing it wrong?

I didn't have that problem. Google did ask for my password again, which made sense, but I didn't end up on their home page.

I didn't specify HTTPS, but I use the HTTPS-Everywhere Firefox extension so the result should be the same. Even so, maybe there is some slight difference which altered the behaviour for me.

Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

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youtube.com doesn't have any obvious method of removing of past watched videos and is even more nefarious than Google will probably ever be (before March 1st, 2012 at least) about tracking visitors.

Additionally, YouTube has become pretty much just a branch of the RIAA and MPAA and their local equivalents, and I'd rather burn down my house than allow them access to my data.

That's why I've been blocking YouTube from setting cookies on my computer, and that's why other people should do too.

Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

#45

When somebody's life is horribly dismembered as a result of Google's insane privacy policy (new or old), please let me know. I'll start thinking about privacy and necessary safety measures at that point. Until then, please stop whining about privacy, because frankly, I just don't see how any of this really matters. My life has yet to be negatively impacted by Google and I don't foresee it happening in the near future…

"I don't foresee it happening in the near future."

You, sir, have a shit imagination

http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-09-17-n72.html

Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

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The official title of the article is "How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect", and the writing itself is much more neutral than this submission title. I'm still not sure why people are afraid of Google's new privacy policy. I understand that there are people who have specific privacy needs, but outside that scope I doubt you have anything to worry about. It's doubtful…

My concern is that someone out there is accumulating a huge amount of very personal information about me. It happens to be a corporation that has a legal obligation not to me but to its shareholders and that obligation is to maximise profit. It also has a legal obligation to the US government and the US courts, a government I have no right to elect and a legal system I cannot afford.

And here's my point: I simply cannot know or control what profit maximising ideas they may come up with in the future or what kinds of ideas politicians may deem necessary in order to win an election.

Some say that it will always be more profitable for Google to "respect my privacy". The problem is that the meaning of "respect my privacy" is a matter of fast changing attitudes. It's not my personal privacy they need to be concerned about, it's what the vast majority of their users will passively accept.

Their privacy policy says they can do anything with my data to create new services and improve existing ones. That means they can do anything. Full stop.

The reason why I'm more concerned about their new privacy policy than about the old one is that lots of small piles of information are less dangerous than one big pile of information, exactly for the reason they are creating it: The value of accumulated information is more than the sum of its parts.

The conclusions that can be drawn from that combined dataset are a lot more reliable and robust. Right now, much of the data that is out there about us is basically garbage and everyone knows it. No one can know if it means anything that I supposedly visited this or that site. But if they can also analyse what I searched for, what my emails are about, what blogs I read, which people I communicate with, etc, they can learn something about my intentions, not just about my actions and they can throw out the garbage.

I don't want all my intentions to be known or to be knowable to anyone on earth because I cannot know or control the intentions of those wanting to know my intentions. It's a onesided shift of power away from me and I can never take it back.

Once the data has become so much more reliable and the conclusions so much more robust, the desire to use that information for all kinds of new purposes will grow accordingly. The pressure on Google to use that knowledge to increase profit will grow. The incentive for criminals to steal the data will grow. The pressure on governments to proactively spy on everyone to prevent this or that type of crime will grow.

This is not me saying "Google has turned evil". It's just a recognition of an inevitable social and economic dynamic ensuing from the possibilities that well intregrated, high quality, sets of personal data provide.

I know more than the vast majority of people about data analysis and hence I will not delegate what "respecting my privacy" means to that majority of passive Google (or Faceboook, ...) users.

Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

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Show of hands: Who is actually going to do this? Who isn't?

I'll admit I was actually considering switching 100% to another search engine and using purely Firefox....

I'm thinking about this too. But Firefox is so much slower and so unwieldy and annoying.

Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

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Someone should write a Firefox plugin to allow people to anonymously exchange google cookies, like you can with the grocery store club cards.

http://www.googlesharing.net/

It sounds good in concept, but I'm concerned that somebody searching for child pornography or similar could be associated with myself. I have the same fear of running a TOR exit node.

Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

#49
I use google apps for domains and I get the following message: "Web History is not available for MY_DOMAIN. Learn more about Google products you can use with MY_EMAIL."

Is Google collecting this data and not giving me the option to turn it off, or are they not collecting the data?

Re: Remove Google Search History Before New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

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The official title of the article is "How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect", and the writing itself is much more neutral than this submission title. I'm still not sure why people are afraid of Google's new privacy policy. I understand that there are people who have specific privacy needs, but outside that scope I doubt you have anything to worry about. It's doubtful…

HN has a character limit on the size of the title, I think it's around 80 characters so the OP probably had to edit the original title to fit in here.
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