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Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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Post by ghaff »

ttfkam wrote: post #80
ghaff wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did get an Apple Silicon MacBook 18 months or so ago but my 2015 MacBook Pro is still fine for pretty much everything except ML and video/image processing.

Or anything that requires a quieter, fan-noise-less environment that doesn't burn your lap on direct skin contact. But yeah, the 2015 MBP was a truly great model that precedes soldered RAM and USB-C-only port selection.

Yeah, it predated the infamous butterfly keyboard and touch bar. Mine did have to have its screen replaced (which Apple extended the warranty on because of a manufacturing issue) and I've also had a new battery installed but it still works pretty well on my dining room table for day to day purposes (which are mostly web-based use of some sort).

But it's got a lot of miles on it. No complaints.

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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Post by justinator »

cpmsmith wrote: post #23
justinator wrote: post #6

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TBF I had the Macbook from 2015 before I felt like upgrading to the M1 in 2021. You usually buy Macs every year?

Well, the previous Pro came out in 2019 (and the model before that 2013). Every four years is not unreasonable. https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/?search_keywords=A1...

First/last Mac Studio was released in 2022 which is I thought what we were talking about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Studio

Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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Post by BXlnt2EachOther »

jmkni wrote: post #66
jsheard wrote: post #44

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Apple showed a lineup of compatible PCIe cards, with a variety of accelerators and I/O hardware but conspicuously no GPUs. https://i.imgur.com/28J1KfN.jpg The Apple Silicon transition ended support for external GPUs, so I think it's safe to assume they won't support internal ones either.

Man I'm so out of what's going on with desktop computing lol, feeling old Could somebody explain what these are?

left to right, had to search a few of them. You're probably not out of it, it's just relatively niche professional stuff. Half of them are only relevant for media professionals for example.

Sonnet card - adds storage via a couple SATA SSDs

OWC 8M2 - adds storage via up to 8 NVME drives

Avid HDX card, runs DSP for ProTools (audio)

Kona 5, video capture and I/O

Lynx E44, high-quality audio I/O

Blackmagic decklink SDI 4k - SDI video capture

ATTO high-speed ethernet card, maybe 50GbE

ATTO Celerity Fibre Channel Adapter - Storage HBA

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Re: Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple Silicon to Mac Pro

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Post by colechristensen »

zbowling wrote: post #52
chillbill wrote: post #41

The best thing about this whole event is that they didn't mention AI even once, all they're saying is ML. Which is what it is. AI is a hype word.

ML is subset of AI. AI that is inclusive of other concepts and it's not a buzzword. It's valid to call anything ML as AI. Sure there is a lot of AI hype but it's not some made up marketing jargon.

AI has been used in a lot of ways, from a philosophy standpoint I’d like to insist it be used only when a meaningful definition of intelligence is applicable and other usages be considered incorrect going forward.

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Post by peoplearepeople »

tiffanyh wrote: post #75
roughly wrote: post #5

I’d been wondering how they were going to handle expandable memory with the M chip, since the integrated memory seemed pretty central to the design - seems like the answer is, “they’re not.” Be interested to see if PCI expansion is sufficient to satisfy the Max Pro market.

Mac Pro = Mac Studio + Expansion Cards I have to imagine this will be a huge disappointment to some, because 192GB of shared memory is way less than the 1.5TB of RAM available on the "old" Mac Pro.

Perhaps someone will come out with a new PCIe card with a load of RAM slots on it, and then writes a kernel driver to map the pcie card pages to appear as regular pages

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Post by adastra22 »

ghaff wrote: post #73
zbowling wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ML is subset of AI. AI that is inclusive of other concepts and it's not a buzzword. It's valid to call anything ML as AI. Sure there is a lot of AI hype but it's not some made up marketing jargon.

You're technically right that AI is a superset. But, at least in a computational context, "AI" is hardly ever being used to refer to cognitive science and other AI subsets that are not directly related to ML. So ML is usually the more precise terminology. But I've pretty much given up on that one.

Large language models are definitely AI.
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