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Germany famously just passed legislation that forces employers to record working hours for all employees.
Very annoyingly so - it's a nightmare for anyone with flexible hours.
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They ain't desirable. But who wants to pay them do nothing? Many people ain't happy to cover existing welfare. Increase welfare and even more people would feel it's unfair.
UBI in the ideal world replaces welfare, food stamps, and rental assistance. It's supposed to be enough for a person to live a basic, decent but pretty no-frills life. I personally don't think it would work, as it ignores economics and human nature. But that is how I understand it.
That's never going to happen. UBI will not replace existing welfare payouts, it will augment them.
Until society is ready to let people and children die in the street because they (or their parents, in the case of children) gambled or boozed all of the UBI away, or it got stolen from them, or they simply burned it due to mental health problems, we still have to have safety nets for people who don't have money.
Which is the whole point of the current welfare assistance system.
UBI is also a no-go in terms of "universal". It's just too unfair. Why should a healthy 20yo get paid (to play video games) the same as a crippled 40yo? The latter literally needs more money just to survive, and doesn't have the same employment options as the healthy 20yo gamer.
If ever UBI is rolled out, you'll see on day two the complaints come rolling in from special groups.
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1. They are paying you for your time. Or, they think they are. 2. If they are already happy, why are they installing spyware?
1. Results-only workplaces should be the norm for project oriented work. 2. HR departments and poor managers making busywork to justify their existence.
^^^^ this so much!
Most HR departments desperately want to appear to be profit centres instead of the cost centres they actually are.
For example, the constant, continuous, process of eternally rolling out new terrible HR systems.
Or the latest set of CBT quizzes on corporate wrong think that come across like a Break Room session from Severance.
They need the constant set of campaigns to justify their place in the organisation but it's all just busy work.
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> Quit the bad ones, join the good ones. This is why universal income is extremely important, so that people can pursue better jobs without risking being vulnerable.
Some people don’t want to work. They’ve told me so. I think UBI would destroy these people, like easy wealth does to the newly rich. A better solution is to focus on worker’s rights and labor regulations. Of course that opens the internationalism question, but so too would ubi.
most ppl dont want to work some unrelateable, bullshit under time constraints for richer ppl they dont even know or like. so mostly we chug along and put in the required performances.
imo this is unesessary and counterproductive since we have gained access to automation of most physical and a lot of office work.
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They ain't desirable. But who wants to pay them do nothing? Many people ain't happy to cover existing welfare. Increase welfare and even more people would feel it's unfair.
You can accuse UBI of many things but unfair it is clearly not, hence the "universal". Everyone gets the same amount - but the assumption is most will then choose to work and earn extra income on top of that.
I pointed out upthread that the so-called "universal" aspect of UBI is a dealbreaker. Special groups will complain, and have mass support for their complaints, if ever UBI is rolled out.
In your world, it's "fair" if 20yo gamers get the same monthly stipend as a 40yo cripple. In reality you'd have complaints from special groups that will be supported in their grievance by the clear majority of the population.
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So if you have the opportunity to stop working and keep being paid, wouldn't you take it? I'm sure the mayority of people don't want to work. It's not a natural thing to do.
It's not unnatural. Humans have always had to hunt or harvest their food, and find or construct shelters to live in.
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UBI in the ideal world replaces welfare, food stamps, and rental assistance. It's supposed to be enough for a person to live a basic, decent but pretty no-frills life. I personally don't think it would work, as it ignores economics and human nature. But that is how I understand it.
> UBI in the ideal world replaces welfare, food stamps, and rental assistance. That's never going to happen. UBI will not replace existing welfare payouts, it will augment them. Until society is ready to let people and children die in the street because they (or their parents, in the case of children) gambled or boozed all of the UBI away, or it got stolen from them, or they simply burned it due to mental health prob…
What's unfair is to take away someone's welfare once they finally land a minimal pay job. That diminishes or removes the incentive to actually find a job.