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At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by rcarmo »

martin_a wrote: post #76
bemusedthrow75 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not coming back? But they clearly are? Pimoroni was shipping Pi 4Bs last week. It has nothing to do with "burning through the charitable donation money". The Pi is sold by a (profitable, AFAIK) wholly-owned subsidiary, the Raspberry Pi Trading Company. Manufacturing them does not absorb Foundation money at all. They have been supply-constrained on components. It's that simple, surely. Eben Upton has said it again and…

> Pimoroni was shipping Pi 4Bs last week. How many? Four? Six? Did they go to scalpers as usual?

Nope. You could actually order Zeros in packs of 10. There is increased availability of many models - the Zero 2 W, however, has an in-chip memory package that makes it a rarer item in general, and will take a while longer to ramp up.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by rcarmo »

derefr wrote: post #62
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - people saying that there are "more performant" devices. Sure, there are. How do they perform in terms of kernel support and documentation? One of the main options pointed at is low-power x86 boxes, which are better than Pis ever were. The rest of the ARM ecosystem is, I agree, poor . > - people (often Americans) saying that the Pi has been "supply-constrained for five years". It really hasn't; it wasn't particula…

> One of the main options pointed at is low-power x86 boxes, which are better than Pis ever were. In terms of what? Battery usage at idle? BOM to operationalize the design? Surely not. > > It's almost as if most of the people whining are just upset there isn't a cheap device they can drop into a Kodi box without any effort. > Okay. Yes? That's a valid usecase. Funny enough, all throughout the pandemic the one thing t…

Some of those Android TV boxes actually had pirated apps of various kinds - and SoCs that were gimped to the extent where you really needed the source to rebuild that particular version of Android.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by rcarmo »

nmstoker wrote: post #6
marcomourao wrote: post #3

Excellent news. I just bought a Fujitsu thin client for €18.00 to scratch the Raspberry itch but will definitely try to get my hands on a Pi 4.

After the only ones being low spec for ages, there do seem to be some higher spec ones becoming available - I nabbed a Pi4 8Gb yesterday. No sign of Zero 2Ws yet though

2Ws require a specific fabrication process that will take a while longer to ramp up (due to the RAM-in-chip)

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by rcarmo »

bemusedthrow75 wrote: post #38

Each time this topic comes up, some broad threads emerge: - people saying that there are "more performant" devices. Sure, there are. How do they perform in terms of kernel support and documentation? - people (often Americans) saying that the Pi has been "supply-constrained for five years". It really hasn't; it wasn't particularly supply-constrained in the UK until about five or six months into the pandemic. Yeah, som…

You forgot all the people who forget there are N5095 (and now N100) mini-PCs galore at pretty reasonable prices these days.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by fn-mote »

euniceee3 wrote: post #46
tjoff wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that the brands fault? For better or worse they even prioritized commercial products despite it not being their core audience.

This is the first I am hearing about the commercial support on this. I had no idea my EIN was so powerful. The brand in my mind is 100% hobby because if I was able to source enough for prototyping (which was not possible over the last 18 months without getting gouged) then sticking with tried and true platforms was the only path forward. Not trying to be cheeky, just surprised the prioritization for commercial produc…

I don't know what quantities you wanted for prototyping, but on the actual "we have a product and need rpi to ship" this was well enough advertised (imo). I certainly knew about it just from looking into acquiring some hobby-use Raspberry Pis.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by theaiquestion »

Roark66 wrote: post #42

>"...should began this July..." Seriously? Should? How. Many. Times. Have we heard it already? In the timeless words of George W Bush Junior "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice... Wait, I can't be fooled again!" No way I'm going to get hopeful here and then pi locator will show one pi zero 2 W in entire Europe, in the one shop in Belgium the owner of refuses to ship out of his country... How many cool open sour…

> How. Many. Times. Have we heard it already?

AFAIK what they've been saying so far has at best been "we're able to continue making them at our current pace". They've also been saying they were focusing on commercial partners over consumers (which IMO is better because commercial customers need some level of assurance of future stock to actually use pi's in their designs).

Neither of those things particularly screams "Regular customers will soon be getting pi's in their hands"

December 2022 They said they expected better stock this year, which appears to be accurate.

I'm more curious to see if they can manage to make a PI 4 successor given how many years the pi 4 has been around already.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by joezydeco »

chimpoftheages wrote: post #88

I'd be happier if they ditched pi 4 production and just released a 5 with whatever SOC manufacturer has the best availability, hopefully that isn't Broadcom.

There are other SBCs with SoCs from other manufacturers out there. They've been out there for a decade. Think BeagleBoard or Wandboard.
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