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At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by orra »

kytazo wrote: post #4

Not sure if rpis are that relevant as of now when there are so many other, usually more performant and overall compelling offers in the same form factor and upstream support to a certain degree.

> usually more performant and overall compelling offers

True.

> compelling offers in the same form factor and upstream support to a certain degree.

But that degree matters. What SBC has the best upstream support these days? Orange? Banana? Pine? I honestly don't know, despite taking a casual interest. Also, upstream and driver support gets worse if you need a newer chipset, to support features like 4k or H.265 or USB PD or 2.5GbE. To be fair, Raspberry Pi doesn't offer the latter.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by cramjabsyn »

kytazo wrote: post #4

Not sure if rpis are that relevant as of now when there are so many other, usually more performant and overall compelling offers in the same form factor and upstream support to a certain degree.

What are you using these days?

Personally I switched pihole and a few other servixes to a docker container on a USFF pc. Still using a pi4 for retro games

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by regularfry »

kytazo wrote: post #4

Not sure if rpis are that relevant as of now when there are so many other, usually more performant and overall compelling offers in the same form factor and upstream support to a certain degree.

Quantity has a quality all of its own. Nothing else has quite the same scale.

It doesn't hurt that the OS is a very well-supported Debian derivative, but the uniformity of the ecosystem is a massive benefit you don't really get anywhere else.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by tjoff »

kytazo wrote: post #4

Not sure if rpis are that relevant as of now when there are so many other, usually more performant and overall compelling offers in the same form factor and upstream support to a certain degree.

On the contrary, the Pi has gone from a small computer to the base of many projects. Where for many self-hosting is synonymous with the raspberry pi.

I don't necessarily agree with that, but it is a pretty great starting point. The competition has a very long way to go to be comparable. Performance is also seldom the limiting factor.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by igou »

ARM SBC entry costs have jumped upwards of $100 and low powered Intel machines (used thin clients, nucs, workstations) have become more accessible than ever. When the 4 was brand new, 4 cores/4gb was pretty killer for the entry price.

The Pi had an incredible impact but it's pretty obvious it doesn't fit very well into a lot of usecases any more given other options. I hope that over the next few years the Pi foundation can focus on its original goal for the Pi: a cheap and accessible device that could be used in schools to teach programming

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by sapiogram »

beebeepka wrote: post #7
epolanski wrote: post #2

Any rumours of a 5?

No need. The CEO said (in an interview with the "explaining computers" YouTube channel) 2023 will be about fixing supply of existing models. It's reasonable to expect the 5 to arrive in 2024 at the earliest. Personally, I wouldn't expect super fast m2 ports and whatnot. Frankly, at this point I am ready to spend a bit more and get a proper 5800u mini pc or something. Waiting for AMD's Zen 4 APUs to hit the market. Th…

> It's reasonable to expect the 5 to arrive in 2024 at the earliest

My expectation is 2025 at the earliest, tbh. Mostly based on the CEO's repeated statements, and the complete lack of rumors about any developments. If a new lineup of PIs were going to launch next year, they'd have to be pretty late in development already.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by tjoff »

euniceee3 wrote: post #10

The shortage ruined the brand for me. Any sort of commercial product based on this cheap platform had supply issues, which caused a pivot. I had an old boss balk at me for suggesting we use Pi's back in 2013, I now see why. Glad to see the gouging finally come to an end!

How is that the brands fault? For better or worse they even prioritized commercial products despite it not being their core audience.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by worldofmatthew »

orra wrote: post #8
epolanski wrote: post #2

Any rumours of a 5?

Alas, no. “Don't expect a Pi 5 five next year,” Upton said [in December 2022], explaining that the Pi team sees 2023 as a year to spend “recovering from what just happened to all of us [COVID, supply chain issues].” https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/21/no_rpi_5_2023/

The raspberry pi becomes even more outdated....

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by incrudible »

euniceee3 wrote: post #10

The shortage ruined the brand for me. Any sort of commercial product based on this cheap platform had supply issues, which caused a pivot. I had an old boss balk at me for suggesting we use Pi's back in 2013, I now see why. Glad to see the gouging finally come to an end!

Pivot to what? Any sort of product based on SBCs had supply chain issues. The supply chain risk with comparable board was and still is higher. Maybe if you target a common denominator you can amortize that, but that also has a bigger upfront cost.
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