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How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

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Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

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Post by cinntaile »

nonethewiser wrote: post #77
cinntaile wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't get any roads without politics in the first place. Everything is "politics". I don't see the issue with the comment, he didn't assign any judgement to the map. Which is where the politics problem usually arises.

What roads? It has nothing to do with roads - it's purely a map of contiguous democrat counties. Besides, that's moving the goalpast from "its not political" to "well yeah it is political but its ok". It's also a bad example precisely for the same reason you (presumably) think it's a good example people can relate to - everyone agrees we need roads. Furthermore, clearly some things are too political to bring up in so…

> What roads?

The original post is about roads, those roads exist (or don't exist) due to political processes.

> Furthermore, clearly some things are too political to bring up in some places.

Can you please explain what is too political about that post? I don't really get what you take offense at? It's just the result of a vote?

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

#92

Post by chrysler »

samstave wrote: post #80
trabant00 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am an european who clicked on some topic about maps routing only to be greeted by the freaking US politics again. Specifically the side that makes everything political, argues that everything is and should be political, but then pretends that the political shit that comes out their keyboard is somehow not political until I point it out. And I said by doing this you make online discussions miserable, not that I myse…

For over a decade I ran a very famous /r/ with ~2,000,000 subscribers... I made it a point to have the sub remain Apolitical - total disaster to the point where the corrupt reddit admins got involved and kicked me out of the sub (admins have tons of alt accounts they use to get mod status in /r/'s) Its very hard to be apolitical at all these days because the constant barrage of damage control and distractions used to…

>> Literally today ; talking about 'running out of money and raising the debt ceiling' - but zero acknowledgement of the ~250 BILLION dollars we have thus far sent to Ukraine

A lot of that money exists only on paper. Take a warehouse full of air defense missiles manufactured in 2000, with a cost of $3m per missile and a shelf life of 25 years. If you give 200 of them to Ukraine to defend its citizens from Russian terror attacks, then on paper that costs $600m. If you use "replacement value" as cost and new missiles cost $6m (because they're better), you can inflate their value to $1.2bn. If you do nothing and let them expire, they'll be worthless in 2 years and you'll just write that $600m or $1.2bn off. In either case, accounting reports lots of money spent, but no real money actually changes hands. That money was already spent decades ago and you aren't saving anything by withholding missiles. By giving air defense missiles to Ukraine instead of letting them sit in a warehouse until they become obsolete, you at least do something useful with them.

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

#93

Post by denysvitali »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #88
denysvitali wrote: post #31

The only thing I don't like about OSRM (the public facing version, not sure if the Docker one has this limitation) is that the route planning is limited in the number of waypoints. I'm planning a trip to the west coast and have 50 POIs (coordinates) collected from Wanderlog that I want to visit. I just run a small TSP algorithm over that list and have an ordered collection of points for which I want to calculate the…

That’s the public instance. It’s a runtime flag to osrm-routed so if you set up your own instance, you can configure it how you like. (Or use the Node or upcoming Python bindings.)

Still, most likely passing 50+ waypoints in the URI might cause other issues

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

#94

Post by samstave »

chrysler wrote: post #92
samstave wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For over a decade I ran a very famous /r/ with ~2,000,000 subscribers... I made it a point to have the sub remain Apolitical - total disaster to the point where the corrupt reddit admins got involved and kicked me out of the sub (admins have tons of alt accounts they use to get mod status in /r/'s) Its very hard to be apolitical at all these days because the constant barrage of damage control and distractions used to…

>> Literally today ; talking about 'running out of money and raising the debt ceiling' - but zero acknowledgement of the ~250 BILLION dollars we have thus far sent to Ukraine A lot of that money exists only on paper. Take a warehouse full of air defense missiles manufactured in 2000, with a cost of $3m per missile and a shelf life of 25 years. If you give 200 of them to Ukraine to defend its citizens from Russian ter…

I need you to be hit with a $50,000,000 bunker bomb. Your logic is ready to bomb itself

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

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Post by kashunstva »

nonethewiser wrote: post #77
cinntaile wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't get any roads without politics in the first place. Everything is "politics". I don't see the issue with the comment, he didn't assign any judgement to the map. Which is where the politics problem usually arises.

What roads? It has nothing to do with roads - it's purely a map of contiguous democrat counties. Besides, that's moving the goalpast from "its not political" to "well yeah it is political but its ok". It's also a bad example precisely for the same reason you (presumably) think it's a good example people can relate to - everyone agrees we need roads. Furthermore, clearly some things are too political to bring up in so…

> it's purely a map of contiguous democrat counties

“Democratic counties”, right? I understand that it’s a common epithet used to deride an opposing party; but if one wishes to remain apolitical isn’t it better to apply the neutrality of using the party’s actual name and conventions of capitalization?

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

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Post by tinus_hn »

thrwawy74 wrote: post #28
tinus_hn wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So edgy that you’re only posting it using a throwaway account. Stop trolling.

Is this edgy? I work in the gov and last week drafted a policy to inform and quickly relocate staff in such states based on their public-facing potential for harm. Quite a lot of our staff is in Florida right now, and legislation continues to roll through.. It's quite real to me. Also I just cycle through throwaway accounts because when I attached my comments to a username I began to self-censor how I speak. The lack…

So your job is to create an undercover network to allow them to escape the clutches of evil republicans. I can certainly imagine that you don’t want to take responsibility for this drivel at work.

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

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Post by Doctor_Fegg »

denysvitali wrote: post #93
Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s the public instance. It’s a runtime flag to osrm-routed so if you set up your own instance, you can configure it how you like. (Or use the Node or upcoming Python bindings.)

Still, most likely passing 50+ waypoints in the URI might cause other issues

I can't speak for the most recent version, but I regularly pass 200+ waypoints to a fork of OSRM 4.9 and it works fine. If you were to use the Node/Python bindings and hence avoid any webserver limitations you should be ok.

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

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Post by thrwawy74 »

tinus_hn wrote: post #96
thrwawy74 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this edgy? I work in the gov and last week drafted a policy to inform and quickly relocate staff in such states based on their public-facing potential for harm. Quite a lot of our staff is in Florida right now, and legislation continues to roll through.. It's quite real to me. Also I just cycle through throwaway accounts because when I attached my comments to a username I began to self-censor how I speak. The lack…

So your job is to create an undercover network to allow them to escape the clutches of evil republicans. I can certainly imagine that you don’t want to take responsibility for this drivel at work.

Traveling to other states for work is done at the gov expense (for our line of work). If there are extenuating circumstances to remove someone and bring them home quickly, we still have to abide by federal travel regulation to get them home. Otherwise they're stranded in another state trying to arrange airfare or a car + hotel(s) which can be very expensive on short notice:

https://www.gsa.gov/policy-regulations/regulations/federal-t...

My understanding is in Florida you can be arrested for dressing in opposition to the gender you were assigned at birth. If witnessed by a child this can be considered a sex crime, for which sex crimes involving children in Florida are eligible for the death penalty. Do I think this is likely to happen? Yes. The past 4-6 years have demonstrated we keep /hoping/ for de-escalation, but then examples are made that get national attention and evil things become normalized. Can and 'will happen' are subjective, but they did recently make it legal to seize trans kids.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/desantis-signs-florida-ban-...

I'm part of an employee advocacy group. It is my role to be sensitive and address concerns some may consider isolated or minute. Things we never thought we'd have to discuss at work are now being discussed to keep (management), employees, and families aware of risks and safe.

What is your definition of evil?

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

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Post by tinus_hn »

thrwawy74 wrote: post #98
tinus_hn wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your job is to create an undercover network to allow them to escape the clutches of evil republicans. I can certainly imagine that you don’t want to take responsibility for this drivel at work.

Traveling to other states for work is done at the gov expense (for our line of work). If there are extenuating circumstances to remove someone and bring them home quickly, we still have to abide by federal travel regulation to get them home. Otherwise they're stranded in another state trying to arrange airfare or a car + hotel(s) which can be very expensive on short notice: https://www.gsa.gov/policy-regulations/regu…

If only the slaves that used the real Underground Railroad could have turned white as easily as crossdressing people can switch to clothing of the proscribed gender.

Try describing a concrete situation in which someone is accused under these laws you speak of, and then is able to escape by simply moving over the state border. Do you live in the world of the Dukes of Hazzard, where they can escape the Sheriff as long as they manage to cross the border? Do you think there are no extradition laws between the states?

Re: How to make fancy road trip maps with R and OpenStreetMap

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Post by doctaj »

_Wintermute wrote: post #83
ezconnect wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot of R users and it's a nice language you should try it sometimes.

As an R user for nearly 15 years at this point: R isn't nice, it's an awful language, but it is very useful.

The tidyverse has made it pretty “nice”.
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