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Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by ianai » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 2:12 PM UTC

ycombinete wrote: post #273

ianai wrote: post #155

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There wasn’t much that worked well especially back then. CGRP blockers are a new thing. Some of that time was college and they don’t really do good healthcare for students. Much of the rest was unemployed and no healthcare. Then there’s the doctors/neuros who told me men don’t get migraines. Have you tried ginger? Maybe triphala (amla, ginger, and turmeric powder altogether). Ginger supposedly acts as a cgrp blocker…

Thanks for your response. > Tinnitus does sound like quite the curse though. It’s been about a decade now of constant ringing. Cicadas in my ears. For the most part I’m at peace with it. It’s like emotional quicksand, the more you fight it the worse you feel. I just don’t want it to get worse. I don’t think silence makes it worse, but I’d does isolate the ringing so that it’s all I can hear. For that reason I prefer…

Interesting about caffeine helping. It works as a vasoconstrictor - constricting the blood vessels. It can be helpful with migraines, too, but too much can also trigger a migraine. Lots of things are like that with migraines.

From that, I'd also imagine with tinnitus similar things would help that help with migraines - like proper sleep, a sleep routine, well hydration, low stress, and avoiding triggers. Triggers for migraines can be things like types of food, smells (fake lavender does me in fast/hard and many other smells), bright lights, etc.

Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by marcosdumay » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 2:35 PM UTC

lesuorac wrote: post #239

marcosdumay wrote: post #230

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I understand nobody rushed the vaccine tests any more because nobody could produce it on the amount necessary. The tests were run faster than normal, and "coincidentally" all finished at about the same time the manufacturers could supply it.

Not sure I follow what you're trying to say. But the trials should end around the same time the manufactures can supply it. If you can manufacture a vaccine that you cannot sell then you have wasted production space. Like the trials had a pre-determined duration so if you know the trial ends in August and you know it takes 1 month to staff up the production line then at the end of June check the preliminary data and…

Yep, I was saying it seems that trials were shortened up until they took all the time manufacturers needed to produce the vaccines, and not any further because there was no point.

That, of course was not clearly communicated, like everything else. So the OP's confusion of very small batches with industrial manufacture was excusable, but he is complaining about a wrong thing.

Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by ycombinete » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 2:54 PM UTC

ianai wrote: post #291

ycombinete wrote: post #273

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Thanks for your response. > Tinnitus does sound like quite the curse though. It’s been about a decade now of constant ringing. Cicadas in my ears. For the most part I’m at peace with it. It’s like emotional quicksand, the more you fight it the worse you feel. I just don’t want it to get worse. I don’t think silence makes it worse, but I’d does isolate the ringing so that it’s all I can hear. For that reason I prefer…

Interesting about caffeine helping. It works as a vasoconstrictor - constricting the blood vessels. It can be helpful with migraines, too, but too much can also trigger a migraine. Lots of things are like that with migraines. From that, I'd also imagine with tinnitus similar things would help that help with migraines - like proper sleep, a sleep routine, well hydration, low stress, and avoiding triggers. Triggers for…

Yes, it's a tightrope for sure! If I drink too much caffiene in a day, or have it too late it will also trigger one.

My other big one is cocoa. Too much chocolate anything will guaranteed give me a migraine.

Also not exercising. If I'm sedentary for too many days in a row I will get a bad headache.

Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by ianai » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 2:58 PM UTC

ycombinete wrote: post #274

ianai wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There wasn’t much that worked well especially back then. CGRP blockers are a new thing. Some of that time was college and they don’t really do good healthcare for students. Much of the rest was unemployed and no healthcare. Then there’s the doctors/neuros who told me men don’t get migraines. Have you tried ginger? Maybe triphala (amla, ginger, and turmeric powder altogether). Ginger supposedly acts as a cgrp blocker…

Thanks for your response. For the most part I’m just at peace with it. It’s like emotional quicksand, the more you resent it the worse it gets. I just don’t want it to get worse. I don’t think silence makes it worse, but I’d does isolate the ringing so that it’s all I can hear. For that reason I prefer we’ll sealed iems to ancs. It’s been about a decade now of constant ringing. I’ll look at that ginger cocktail you m…

Triphala is a supplement and comes from an ancient Indian medical practice, Ayurveda. The ingredients in it are very strong antioxidants. But check with your doctor(s) for your situation.

Franlab did a cool video on her handling of tinnitus https://youtu.be/CYKxDGukU0s

Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by majormajor » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 5:42 PM UTC

pellucidar wrote: post #284

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What "maskers in blue states"? I hardly see anyone in a mask, let alone harassing people not in a mask . That was my question! Where is this happening? Cause I'm really having a hard time reconciling people's random online claims with anything I've seen while out and about daily near me... Is there just an Extremely Online segment of the public that keeps repeating 2020's arguments without actually getting out much t…

Are you not in a city? I still see people masking all the time, though it’s never a lot of them unless the setting still requires masking. Most folk dance events I would otherwise be attending still require masks, and often N95s. There’s much less lingering masking and vaccine requirements in the suburbs, though.

I'm in a city and it's very rare for me (my wild guess is ("Elder millenial" or whatever the fuck demographic they're calling it now, if that's a factor.)

Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by lesuorac » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 7:37 PM UTC

JPKab wrote: post #269

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #262

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You can clearly look at year-over-year statistics and see the increased death count. What do you think caused it? An increase in eye-sight-related car accidents? All the people complaining about 'comorbidities' don't understand how cause of death is reported. When someone has Cancer, but dies from Pneumonia, should they list Cancer or the Pneumonia? All diseases have some 'comorbidities'. But if they didn't have Covi…

Sweden has the lowest excess deaths count in the western world. They didn't lock down. That's not a coincidence. Lockdowns increased social dysfunction, and this is the root of excess deaths. Funny how you also aren't mentioning the education disaster that the hysterical, statistically illiterate cowards who closed schools caused. Schools in EU and Asia were open. Just the North American fools closed theirs. Btw, I k…

Not Swedish but a cursory read seems to show that they did ban gatherings (as small as 8+ people!). So, if Sweden is the pinnacle of Covid response then banning people from gathering (i.e. lockdowns) was correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_government_response_to...

Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by bluGill » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 7:56 PM UTC

hammock wrote: post #195

bluGill wrote: post #189

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There was plenty of other hygiene guidelines before then. National things are easy to track, but tend to be late.

Would be interested to see a source showing a guideline of wiping down surfaces from hundreds of years ago

I doubt you would find one. 100 years ago doctors were just accepting that hand washing before surgery was a good idea. I'm not sure what the oldest source of general washing you will find is, probably 1950s.

You will find biblical references to hand washing dating back several thousands years, but i'm not sure you count that

Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by wincy » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 8:02 PM UTC

dwringer wrote: post #166

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Probably either forgot or it wasn’t worth the trouble since they were on a short drive between locations.

I would regularly leave my mask on in the car just from being too lazy to take it off and put it back on again in the span of 15 minutes. I definitely had a couple of instances where people who saw me drive by yelled something at me in anger about how I had it on. I am kinda surprised to see a similar complaint crop up in a thread on HN. I'd usually forget I had it on anyway. I guess some people count down the second…

I’m not yelling at people. I’m just pointing out something that seems abnormal. I personally think normalizing voluntarily wearing masks is great as it makes it acceptable to wear them on airplanes, and service workers who want are free to mask up where you would have been seen as a crazy person pre pandemic.

It makes sense to wear a mask when you’re on an airplane or if you’re a service worker in constant contact with the general public.

Now for me personally wearing a mask was almost impossible to ignore because I wear glasses, so my glasses were constantly fogging up and it was a huge hassle and nearly unbearable over the course of a day, so in my mind it’s extra surprising to see people wearing masks when they’re alone and in my mind it doesn’t make much logical sense to do so.

Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 8:45 PM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #297

hammock wrote: post #195

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Would be interested to see a source showing a guideline of wiping down surfaces from hundreds of years ago

I doubt you would find one. 100 years ago doctors were just accepting that hand washing before surgery was a good idea. I'm not sure what the oldest source of general washing you will find is, probably 1950s. You will find biblical references to hand washing dating back several thousands years, but i'm not sure you count that

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Re: The explosive legacy of the hand sanitizer boom

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Post by hammock » Sat, Jun 03, 2023, 8:53 PM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #297

hammock wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would be interested to see a source showing a guideline of wiping down surfaces from hundreds of years ago

I doubt you would find one. 100 years ago doctors were just accepting that hand washing before surgery was a good idea. I'm not sure what the oldest source of general washing you will find is, probably 1950s. You will find biblical references to hand washing dating back several thousands years, but i'm not sure you count that

Interesting. Someone had told me there were plenty of examples. I’ll keep looking