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Re: Tomb Raider

#21

Felt like the ending might've had a bit more oomph if the newest games were any good and not just generic Ubishit.

They are good. Can you name a better game in the same genre? The only competition I can think of is Uncharted 4. The older Tomb Raider games are too many generations behind to run on modern consoles. Tomb Raider has become a major movie franchise, so it's not too surprising that the new games from the last decade are essentially movies.

> They are good. Can you name a better game in the same genre?

Original Assasins, The Saboteur.

Re: Tomb Raider

#23

Related to "the 2013 Lara Croft is more feminist than the old Lara Croft", I liked Liana Kerzner's discussion on the topic (with a cute pseudo-dialectic at about 11:00 in). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJMj3B1BFko

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My problem with the Tomb Raider design is that they swapped out Lara Croft for someone else.

Lara used to have the same consistent design till Tomb Raider 6 (The Angel of Darkness). Her iconic face, known from countless magazine covers, posters, ads, and even music videos (in German speaking countries she appeared in a Die Ärzte music video which topped the charts for weeks [1]). Her trade mark braid hair style, too. It was never just the boobs.

Unfortunately Tomb Raider 6 was a medium flop (due to poor gameplay). The next title, Legend, was a reboot, and they decided to change Lara's face. In subsequent titles they changed her more and more. By the time of Tomb Raider (2013) she was replaced with a completely different person. Not even her signature braid was preserved. It was just some generic looking woman of a similar age.

That's like Nintendo deciding, after the 6th Super Mario title, that Mario should now look like a more realistic man and lose his big nose and his outdated hat. Or as if Capcom had decided, for Metal Gear Solid 3, to swap out Solid Snake for some other guy with the same name.

I would have been okay with changing Lara Croft's not-very-realistic body proportions to something which fits the zeitgeist better. If it is so important for those people who love to complain about such stuff. Though I suspect most of the people complaining about her proportions didn't even play the games themselves. But please at least keep her face and don't change her into a completely different person.

(And in my opinion, keep her braid. No other character has it. Without it she is like Mario without hat, or Sonic without his red/white shoes.)

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=404oPn6tudE

Re: Tomb Raider

#25

Related to "the 2013 Lara Croft is more feminist than the old Lara Croft", I liked Liana Kerzner's discussion on the topic (with a cute pseudo-dialectic at about 11:00 in). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJMj3B1BFko

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Re: Tomb Raider

#26

Related to "the 2013 Lara Croft is more feminist than the old Lara Croft", I liked Liana Kerzner's discussion on the topic (with a cute pseudo-dialectic at about 11:00 in). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJMj3B1BFko

You almost lost me at pseudo-dialectic. But so far I’m really enjoying this!

Re: Tomb Raider

#27
post #24

My problem with the Tomb Raider design is that they swapped out Lara Croft for someone else. Lara used to have the same consistent design till Tomb Raider 6 (The Angel of Darkness). Her iconic face, known from countless magazine covers, posters, ads, and even music videos (in German speaking countries she appeared in a Die Ärzte music video which topped the charts for weeks [1]). Her trade mark braid hair style, too.…

I have absolute no interest in any of the new Tomb Raider games nor the franchise in general other than as a retro curio, but that decision seems little more controversial than say, recasting James Bond.

It’s far from the only case of developers doubling down on a rebooted character redesign. Kratos didn’t get a physical image shift but isn’t he like a responsible dad now or something?

Re: Tomb Raider

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post #24

My problem with the Tomb Raider design is that they swapped out Lara Croft for someone else. Lara used to have the same consistent design till Tomb Raider 6 (The Angel of Darkness). Her iconic face, known from countless magazine covers, posters, ads, and even music videos (in German speaking countries she appeared in a Die Ärzte music video which topped the charts for weeks [1]). Her trade mark braid hair style, too.…

I have absolute no interest in any of the new Tomb Raider games nor the franchise in general other than as a retro curio, but that decision seems little more controversial than say, recasting James Bond. It’s far from the only case of developers doubling down on a rebooted character redesign. Kratos didn’t get a physical image shift but isn’t he like a responsible dad now or something?

Bond had to be recasted, there was no physical way around it. But recasting Lara Croft is as unnecessary as recasting Homer Simpson.

Re: Tomb Raider

#29
post #24

My problem with the Tomb Raider design is that they swapped out Lara Croft for someone else. Lara used to have the same consistent design till Tomb Raider 6 (The Angel of Darkness). Her iconic face, known from countless magazine covers, posters, ads, and even music videos (in German speaking countries she appeared in a Die Ärzte music video which topped the charts for weeks [1]). Her trade mark braid hair style, too.…

I have absolute no interest in any of the new Tomb Raider games nor the franchise in general other than as a retro curio, but that decision seems little more controversial than say, recasting James Bond. It’s far from the only case of developers doubling down on a rebooted character redesign. Kratos didn’t get a physical image shift but isn’t he like a responsible dad now or something?

Recasting Lara Croft is more like recasting Duke Nukem into a skinny woke guy. Makes no sense IMO.

Re: Tomb Raider

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have absolute no interest in any of the new Tomb Raider games nor the franchise in general other than as a retro curio, but that decision seems little more controversial than say, recasting James Bond. It’s far from the only case of developers doubling down on a rebooted character redesign. Kratos didn’t get a physical image shift but isn’t he like a responsible dad now or something?

Recasting Lara Croft is more like recasting Duke Nukem into a skinny woke guy. Makes no sense IMO.

Given how DNF has seemingly sank that franchise, don’t give them any ideas!
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