Minor nitpick: The landing page video has a picture of Safari, but when clicked shows Chrome in action.
Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
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Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#282Very cool tool but way, way overpriced.
Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another way of wording what you just said: "What if cancelling the subscription is more costly than keeping it?" Uh... then keep it, because that means it's providing value to you.
If the insulation in my building was asbestos, it could be more costly to remove it than to leave it there and pay for regular testing and extra maintenance. But that doesn't mean it would be providing value. Switching software has a cost. Avoiding that cost is not value.
Then factor in switching costs or find a way to reduce them when initially making a purchase.
Y'all are twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to justify why you can't easily cancel a subscription.
Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
There you're taking the already high-ish barrier for devs to pay for tools, as discussed elsewhere in this thread, and adding on the really high barrier to get people to donate to things they can use for free.
True, but there was a high barrier to entry to just install it. And for a long time there was little else you could use. On the other hand, it was free and more important to get people to use it and be more productive then generate revenue.
Not criticizing Firebug, aboslutely. Just speaking to the challenges of trying to run on individual donations.
Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the insulation in my building was asbestos, it could be more costly to remove it than to leave it there and pay for regular testing and extra maintenance. But that doesn't mean it would be providing value. Switching software has a cost. Avoiding that cost is not value.
Then factor in switching costs or find a way to reduce them when initially making a purchase. Y'all are twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to justify why you can't easily cancel a subscription.
> Then factor in switching costs or find a way to reduce them when initially making a purchase.
That's what people are doing!
They're saying that there are many pieces of software that could be helpful, but with that potential switching cost looming in the distance they won't buy a subscription at any price because it can't be relied on.
They're not saying it's hard to stop paying, they're saying it's hard to stop using, so permanent license or bust.
Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#286Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…
If you're starting your own project, sure. But most people are paid hourly or salary and not paid based on completion of tasks, so I don't really care if it saves me hours at work - I'll be given more work to do. If the company is paying for it, I'd be happy to use it, but then your cost-effectiveness comparison goes out the window.
Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#287Beautiful... but no undo?
There's "Reset all changes" but Cmd-Z and Ctrl-Z do nothing. Is there a way to undo the last action?
Undo is essential functionality, IMO.
Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#288I don't understand how classes work in this tool.
It looks like you can only edit styles on individual elements.
I can see classes, but I don't see a way to change the class of an element, or to change the CSS properties of a class. I even tried applying different changes to the same class — larger font for one element, smaller font for another element with the same class — and CSS Pro is happy to give me contradicting CSS rules.
Example: https://imgur.com/a/qT1y95T
CSS with a separate rule for every element is unworkable. How is the exported CSS supposed to work?
Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Monthly subscriptions suck. Every company wants to "tax" me monthly for something that's feature complete. The ones I already pay, I do so very begrudgingly. There's simply too many SaaS products out there. Let's go back to perpetual licenses. And I'll gladly pay for upgraded versions, or not if the upgrade isn't worthwhile. When it's not SaaS, I also get to control what version I'm using. The product doesn't own…
> Let's go back to perpetual licenses. There is a perpetual licence listed on a page; Life-time $900 > Monthly subscriptions suck. They do. But for a SaaS biz that has to pay the bills for infra it is hard to get around it.
900 dollars, lol, what a joke.
Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design
#290Im curious as to how a poor person would use something like this? All of these are creating the haves and the havenots in the coding world. The rich get richer.
Im a simple man, I see a monthly sub, and I move on.