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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by alfalfasprout »

bazmattaz wrote: post #15

I’m a bit hesitant to admit that I use the official app for Reddit and have used for years. I’ve used the browser extensions before and have tried Apollo app but I never got hooked. I don’t understand all the hate the official app gets. I understand there is telemetry but i have pi hole to block most of that. It has ads sure but I don’t really see them anymore, your adjust adjust around them. One thing that annoys me…

you're on HN. The majority opinion here is bound to be a hot take. Reality is the official app isn't THAT bad.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by frozenlettuce »

moneywoes wrote: post #277
frozenlettuce wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's on purpose. The new UI places each post inside a "card". The intent is having you scroll past cards. This makes even text-only posts be similar to image ads posts, and while you scroll you are not aware if the next card is an ad or not. Layouts with heavy information density (as old.reddit.com) are more user friendly, as you they allow you to just scan the list and be done with it. But are bad for ads.

Any further reading? Very insightful post Ty

That was mostly just my cynical take.

Around 2007-08 I read in a(physical) Brazilian web design magazine that you can have two types of design: - for short, ephemeral experience, your design should be striking - the user will just look at the thing once anyway, so you should capture the attention in spite of how ease of navigation. Eg. a website for a rock band tour. - for experiences that will need to be repeated lots of times (eg. using a corporate system, reading the news), you want the design to be boring and predictable.

I think that minimalism has been used to push interfaces that reduce information density - regardless of how the density would be useful in that context!

After the original Material Design video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrT6v5sOwJg the writing was on the wall: if you want to build a google-grade portfolio, create designs that resemble this. After some time users got used to that kind of look and now sites with high density of information look alien.

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Post by makestuff »

ruleforty wrote: post #326
makestuff wrote: post #311

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Does Reddit actually make any money though or do they run in the red?

It’s looking like the answer to your question is probably blood red: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/fidelity-...

Yeah so OPs point about "making plenty of money" isn't really true. Now, I'm sure they could pull a twitter and layoff 75% of the company and reach profitability.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by plagiarist »

rglullis wrote: post #389
plagiarist wrote: post #377

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Ah, you're irritable because it's personal to you. Yes, people place conditions on what they are willing to purchase, that's... how it works? Why do I even want to be on Mastodon, let alone pay to be on it, let alone pay someone who is rent-seeking on top of a platform and content they aren't responsible for? Can't I get access to the social network direct from the source, for free?

> Can't I get access to the social network direct from the source, for free? For free? No, you can't. - You (or someone else) will have to develop the software. The source code doesn't just show up magically on github. - You (or someone else) will have to test the software, triage bugs, help with documentation, etc. - You (or someone else) will have to pay for the servers. - You (or someone else) will have to do cont…

It's funny that you include content moderation in there when that was one of my requests. Are you moderating content beyond your legal minimum requirements?

Come to think of it, did you write all of the Fediverse software you are using? Are you paying those developers monthly? Or did it... appear for free on GitHub? The sense of entitlement here is something else.

I think you would do better if you spend you time thinking of a value proposition instead of being irate at people and demand they pay you. I have no proof you would not be using my data, and I would be linking that (with a credit card) to a real identity. Promising me you won't do that is not a value prop I care about.

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Post by marginalia_nu »

almenon wrote: post #301
marginalia_nu wrote: post #145

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> Mostly ads, are you going to remove that? How are you going to explain the revenue loss to the board? Since launch "new reddit" has been broken to the point where the page crashes if you copy and paste text in the comment textarea. You need a hard reload of the page to restore it, and then you lose your comment. It's been what, 5 years now? I think it's safe to assume that nobody working on reddit's UX actually use…

I've never had that bug, although I'm on chrome.

I've definitely gotten it with chrome (and chrome-based browsers), Safari's apparently affected as well, although it seems worst on firefox. Depends on what you paste. Seems to be some unicode in Chrome, vs anything in FF.

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Post by noarchy »

lapcat wrote: post #136
interestica wrote: post #94

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Ok? That's the point though. It collects a bunch of external sources in one spot that are all related to the same issue -- and provides the context. A really great way to get a handle on the wider implications. And the initial HN submission you linked to, "Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing" -- does that in any way allude to its content?

> That's the point though. It collects a bunch of external sources in one spot that are all related to the same issue -- and provides the context. You're missing the point, which is that this submission is just the latest in a long string of duplicate submissions, some of which have already been marked [dupe] by the moderators. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36142285 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3614241…

>You're missing the point, which is that this submission is just the latest in a long string of duplicate submissions, some of which have already been marked [dupe] by the moderators.

Then let the moderators moderate, and you can choose a different hill upon which to die, so to speak.

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Post by waboremo »

rchaud wrote: post #268
waboremo wrote: post #220

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Astroturfing is the least of the problems; most threads are filled with fake experts (of a very specific demographic - usually very young, american, male, etc) projecting. This is fine if you consciously remember this while browsing, but when you start to believe that you can get a pulse from "real people" on Reddit, you've already lost the game. Remember: to even post a comment on Reddit already puts you in a niche…

It's a good thing we don't have any of this foolishness on Hacker News! /s

Yes, HN also shares those problems. The upside is I don't see many people proclaiming to add HN to their google searches to find the pulse or whatever it may be, on the contrary it seems many come here just to debate.

Which is the bigger problem, someone coming to a niche place to debate, or someone who believes adding reddit to their google searches is going to provide them with better insight? I'd say the latter: they aren't conscious of the BS being pushed onto them.

Also kind of funny your comment is an exact demonstration of what I mean, that self-reinforcing style of "comedy" coupled with a nonsensical assumption.

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Post by y0ink »

bazmattaz wrote: post #15

I’m a bit hesitant to admit that I use the official app for Reddit and have used for years. I’ve used the browser extensions before and have tried Apollo app but I never got hooked. I don’t understand all the hate the official app gets. I understand there is telemetry but i have pi hole to block most of that. It has ads sure but I don’t really see them anymore, your adjust adjust around them. One thing that annoys me…

Here is a very illustrative post/thread showing a comparison of the official Reddit app and one of several alternatives, in this case RiF. The contrast is striking. You be the judge.

https://old.reddit.com/r/BikiniBottomTwitter/comments/13xk3l...

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by suddenexample »

tremere wrote: post #8

Reddit is past its expiration date anyway and I'm surprised no one has created a challenger site. Perhaps this was due to Reddit's friendliness toward programmatic access but it seems they are taking that away. This is a good opportunity to create a new community, and essentially take back messaging from the corporations (let's be real about what reddit is) and put it back into the hands of the people.

Ironically, I think Google has by far the most to gain from spinning up a non-profit-seeking Reddit clone in house, as it implicitly benefits search advertising by increasing the value of search.
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