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Re: StackOverflow petition to allow removing AI generated content

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Post by cosmolev »

dlivingston wrote: post #7

What's the motivation for Stack Overflow to allow AI-generated content in the first place? These AI models were likely heavily trained on SO data, so any LLM-based answer is merely a regurgitation of thousands of human answers before it. In addition, asking a question on Stack Overflow and having some LLM respond seems to me like the equivalent of asking GPT-X.Y directly, albeit with extra steps.

There is a possibility that everything we output is merely a regurgitation of thousands of human answers, ideas, and thoughts we have encountered before. Including this comment of yours. And mine.

Re: StackOverflow petition to allow removing AI generated content

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Post by 8note »

isoprophlex wrote: post #8
koheripbal wrote: post #6

Why? If the answers are good, leave them.

That's the thing, A) they might not be, B) once we start mixing human answers with AI on SO, it's value as a data source for future LLM train runs will decrease. The tech is moving at breakneck pace, and in general I'm loving it. But let's not hurry the adoption of AI too much

For B, SO still has voting on answers as well as acceptance of answers

It's not as valuable as raw text input, but it's still marked up and classified

Re: StackOverflow petition to allow removing AI generated content

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Post by lordnacho »

isoprophlex wrote: post #5

I don't understand why you would, for the forseeable future, want to allow AI generated content on SO. Not with the current state of the art in generative AI. If I want an AI generated answer, with all the pros and cons specific to LLMs, I'll just open chatgpt or turn on copilot... SO answers (used to be) in an entirely different league in terms of trustworthiness. I'm totally on board with this moderator strike. Edi…

If someone has already put in the right prompt to get the best answer, you will now not have to do that.

Also, SO isn't just about getting the right answer, it's also about finding the pros and cons of each proposed solution.

Re: StackOverflow petition to allow removing AI generated content

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Post by [deleted] »

dlivingston wrote: post #7

What's the motivation for Stack Overflow to allow AI-generated content in the first place? These AI models were likely heavily trained on SO data, so any LLM-based answer is merely a regurgitation of thousands of human answers before it. In addition, asking a question on Stack Overflow and having some LLM respond seems to me like the equivalent of asking GPT-X.Y directly, albeit with extra steps.

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Re: StackOverflow petition to allow removing AI generated content

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Post by dlivingston »

EGreg wrote: post #11

So it has been only a couple months and AI spam is causing problems for submissions in communities from StackOverflow to Sci-Fi publishing to photo contests. The AIs can overrun all the CAPTCHAs too. So, this is just the beginning. What will happen next year on HN? Anyone can deploy a swarm of bots

With generative AI (text, images, videos), I'm of the opinion that very soon -- if not now -- every"one" on the internet should be assumed a bot until proven otherwise.

In other words, it's now trivial to fake a digital persona, including "selfies", "personalities", and more.

How do you know I'm not an LLM?

Re: StackOverflow petition to allow removing AI generated content

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Post by jatins »

dlivingston wrote: post #7

What's the motivation for Stack Overflow to allow AI-generated content in the first place? These AI models were likely heavily trained on SO data, so any LLM-based answer is merely a regurgitation of thousands of human answers before it. In addition, asking a question on Stack Overflow and having some LLM respond seems to me like the equivalent of asking GPT-X.Y directly, albeit with extra steps.

Why is that a bad thing? People do ask very similar things on Stackoverflow so if an AI can answer that, let it!

Re: StackOverflow petition to allow removing AI generated content

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Post by lelandfe »

dlivingston wrote: post #7

What's the motivation for Stack Overflow to allow AI-generated content in the first place? These AI models were likely heavily trained on SO data, so any LLM-based answer is merely a regurgitation of thousands of human answers before it. In addition, asking a question on Stack Overflow and having some LLM respond seems to me like the equivalent of asking GPT-X.Y directly, albeit with extra steps.

Probably scaling moderation to account for increasingly wrong and right-looking answers.

Re: StackOverflow petition to allow removing AI generated content

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Post by whatyesaid »

AI generated can be somewhat sniffed out today but I'm not sure how long that will even last. Usually you can tell when the writing is great but the points made are trash or miss the point.

I personally wouldn't find it helpful. I'd say let the question poster and visitor decide if they want to see AI generated stuff. But that does rely on AI answers being marked as such or detected.

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