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Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

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Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

#31

Similar post, 340 comments 9 hours ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36162235

Funny how HN selectively applies this rule. Third front page thread in two days without updates.

I think that probably falls under: HN has grown and has limited staffing.

Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

#33

Speaking as an Apollo user for five years, the official app is just terrible. From big problems like confusing/inconsistent navigation and missing video and text formatting options to annoyances like slow/delayed animations and janky scrolling, there's just a huge lack of thought or polish in Reddit's app. I think Reddit is just embarrassed that one guy can make an app that's so, so, soooo much better than their slow…

The amount of people that still have no idea how to either download video posts or have sound enabled while playing the video... are astonishing.

Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

#34

The owner of this client should just try to replace underlying Reddit with something else. Someone tried something similar years ago they bought up all the popular twitter clients

I don't get this suggestion. Users of this app (myself included) want a different UI for Reddit. Changing the underlying store to something else would make it useless to me because I'm specifically using it to access Reddit. "Something else" wouldn't have the same communities and content that I want to view.

The suggestion seems to be to turn the client into a generic interface for any reddit-like site, and port people to that. Imagine if a few million people swung over to a new site like the exodus from freenode.

Reddit's content isn't special. It's all network effects.

Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

#35

Speaking as an Apollo user for five years, the official app is just terrible. From big problems like confusing/inconsistent navigation and missing video and text formatting options to annoyances like slow/delayed animations and janky scrolling, there's just a huge lack of thought or polish in Reddit's app. I think Reddit is just embarrassed that one guy can make an app that's so, so, soooo much better than their slow…

I read someone else’s opinion on a separate hacker news thread saying they thought the reason for the increase was because of AI and LLMs. Twitter recently did something similar.

Not sure if it’s true but it struck me as making sense. The timing is too coincidental.

Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

#36

> Apollo made 7 billion requests last month, which would put it at about 1.7 million dollars per month, or 20 million US dollars per year. Even if I only kept subscription users, the average Apollo user uses 344 requests per day, which would cost $2.50 per month 900,000 total users, if they were all converted to paid users, would cost $1.89 per user, so Apollo could charge $1.99 per month. Or they could charge $2.50…

Don't forget Apple's cut. And presumably Apollo devs don't want to work for free. And not everyone will pay. And, and, and ... soon you're charging 5, 6, 10 bucks a month.

Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

#37

> Apollo made 7 billion requests last month, which would put it at about 1.7 million dollars per month, or 20 million US dollars per year. Even if I only kept subscription users, the average Apollo user uses 344 requests per day, which would cost $2.50 per month 900,000 total users, if they were all converted to paid users, would cost $1.89 per user, so Apollo could charge $1.99 per month. Or they could charge $2.50…

According to calculations, His only pivot is to make it sub only for like 5$ a month. Remember 30% goes to Apple.

Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

#38

> Apollo made 7 billion requests last month, which would put it at about 1.7 million dollars per month, or 20 million US dollars per year. Even if I only kept subscription users, the average Apollo user uses 344 requests per day, which would cost $2.50 per month 900,000 total users, if they were all converted to paid users, would cost $1.89 per user, so Apollo could charge $1.99 per month. Or they could charge $2.50…

> reasonable for access to all of reddit

Not all of reddit. You're still blocked out of NSFW content (which will not be accessible over any tier of API).

Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

#39

The owner of this client should just try to replace underlying Reddit with something else. Someone tried something similar years ago they bought up all the popular twitter clients

Are you talking about UberMedia? I used to work there!

Re: Reddit sparks outrage after it demands app developer pay $20M/yr

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post #37

> Apollo made 7 billion requests last month, which would put it at about 1.7 million dollars per month, or 20 million US dollars per year. Even if I only kept subscription users, the average Apollo user uses 344 requests per day, which would cost $2.50 per month 900,000 total users, if they were all converted to paid users, would cost $1.89 per user, so Apollo could charge $1.99 per month. Or they could charge $2.50…

According to calculations, His only pivot is to make it sub only for like 5$ a month. Remember 30% goes to Apple.

Since Apollo qualifies as a small/medium business, that's 15%
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