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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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The curious thing is that Reddit is as valuable as it is because of what it gets from its users (free moderation, free user-submitted content.) There's always been a sort of implicit agreement that it's a symbiotic relationship -- reddit provides the house/utilities, users provide the stuff, and mods do the clean up. Third-party devs were an extension of that -- making it easier to connect the parties.

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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> but that Reddit is also implementing a change where third-party apps would lose access to NSFW subreddits, while the official site would not What's the official public rationale for that move? And what's the corporate-internal rationale, if anyone who knows can say? (I can imagine a few reasons other than simply to take away more user base of third-party apps, but I'm curious what the truth is.) (Aside: Both openne…

I wonder if advertisers get to chose if they can include/exclude nsfw content? After all, the bottom line is monetization.

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Reddit is past its expiration date anyway and I'm surprised no one has created a challenger site. Perhaps this was due to Reddit's friendliness toward programmatic access but it seems they are taking that away. This is a good opportunity to create a new community, and essentially take back messaging from the corporations (let's be real about what reddit is) and put it back into the hands of the people.

There has been alternatives sites even some working with ActivityPub as Lemmy or some in development in Nostr, there is a sub r/redditalternatives which was created since the Ellen Pao fiasco.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Reddit is past its expiration date anyway and I'm surprised no one has created a challenger site. Perhaps this was due to Reddit's friendliness toward programmatic access but it seems they are taking that away. This is a good opportunity to create a new community, and essentially take back messaging from the corporations (let's be real about what reddit is) and put it back into the hands of the people.

Let's be clear though: this is exactly what happened. Digg was the place to go, and then they fucked it up and everyone migrated to Reddit. Now Reddit is fucking it up, and even if everyone migrates somewhere else, that new somewhere else is going to fuck it up too once they get to the point of "we need to be profitable at all costs". What we actually need is some way to convince users to pay for the services they us…

>What we actually need is some way to convince users to pay for the services they use

Yes and that will most likely work great the same day that communism will. If users pay X the corporation wants X + Y. It is an age-old problem from way before the internet. Can you name one company that is okay with a healthy profit that doesn't get better over time? For example if they take costs and have X profit, will anyone still say X is fine with 100 times more users? After all it should become cheaper per user and theres zero reason the profit should go up. In my opinion the only way that will happen is with governments doing this - and not a government like in the US but more like Norway.

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The only app I use to browse Reddit is old.reddit.com. It's still great on mobile if you have a browser with proper text reflow (ie. Opera on Android, since all others can't be bothered). But everytime I end up seeing the "new" design it's instantly repelling, I can't browse it even once. This is Digg all over again!

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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It is so disheartening that Musk's callous and destructive management of Twitter is becoming a template/excuse for shitty choices at other companies. We exist in a culture and Twitter has lurched the Overton window in a direction that makes everything worse for all of us.

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I’m a bit hesitant to admit that I use the official app for Reddit and have used for years. I’ve used the browser extensions before and have tried Apollo app but I never got hooked. I don’t understand all the hate the official app gets. I understand there is telemetry but i have pi hole to block most of that. It has ads sure but I don’t really see them anymore, your adjust adjust around them. One thing that annoys me…

"Really, once you get distracted, the pain of sitting on a nail just goes away!" Spying on users, injecting ads, and dark patterns. Or you could just uh.. not have any of that?

Users will be spied upon in any app if they're authenticated. The ads thing is silly. How else do you get free content.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Control of the narrative is worth more than just money. So instead of just removing it, they just set the price to be laughable high so few, if any actually pay. Reddit is also betting that the 'sticky' users who contribute won't leave. And I think they grossly underestimated just how fast content creators can abandon your platform for a more friendly one. I also surmise that the API charging is to claw money back fr…

ironically, these aggregators are just going to switch to using scraping instead ...

And it all comes full-circle.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Control of the narrative is worth more than just money. So instead of just removing it, they just set the price to be laughable high so few, if any actually pay. Reddit is also betting that the 'sticky' users who contribute won't leave. And I think they grossly underestimated just how fast content creators can abandon your platform for a more friendly one. I also surmise that the API charging is to claw money back fr…

Reddit doesn't really have content creators, just content reposters.

That’s not really true. I am on a number of subs (boardgames, woodworking, baking, etc.) that have people posting their own content all the time. The following are the very first posts at the top of the front page of each of these subs right now:

https://www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/13xydtw/the_leg...

https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/13y7iit/made_a...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Baking/comments/13ybcbk/first_time_...

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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So, basically any kind of customization to the Reddit experience is now limited to browser extensions and userscripts that scrape and modify the website itself. On Android, this means using Firefox. On iOS, I don’t think there’s much choice. Unless someone creates a Reddit app that is actually just a web view wrapper bundled with the necessary client-side scripts.

> On iOS, I don’t think there’s much choice. iOS has a standard browser extension system, and other iOS browsers support their own extension system. https://insightbrowser.com/

It looks like that's only true as of Feb of this year: https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/07/new-iphone-browsers/

I think all of the major iOS browser competitors (chromi, firefox, etc) still use webkit for now, and are pretty limited as a result

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