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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by Karunamon »

dredmorbius wrote: post #65
taytus wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI" Do you mean like... HN?

Could you point to specific deficiencies of HN?

- Lacks basic responsiveness (would not be difficult to make links/buttons larger on phones while impacting nothing for desktop; as it stands they are very hard to hit on mobile)

- Long threads become unreadable due to shifting right with no end as replies come in, occasionally becoming comical

- Supports just enough markdown (asterisk italics, indented code blocks) to lead people to think they can use all of it (want bold, or in-line code? You lose.)

- Code blocks are unreadable on mobile since they cannot be scrolled

- Despite being an obvious design choice, breaking accessibility by reducing the contrast of unpopular comments is a deficiency.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #63
jollofricepeas wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Reddit isn’t a non-profit. I’m not sure why it’s user base doesn’t seem to understand this. They have to make UI changes to make money. It’s either that or everyone pays for subscriptions. 2. The AI threat is real. It’s not even remotely fair that the large tech players of the world get to train their models on others content for cheap. It’s sad what’s happening to Apollo but they need to beef with Microsoft and G…

This has nothing to do with AI. Making your site less usable isn't going to make you more profitable in the long run.

I think Musk has shown that this is not accurate. Established players will play and smaller fish will die off as intended further consolidated a given field.

For the record, I am not happy about it, but I disagree with your assertion that LLM is not part of the consideration here.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by p3rls »

lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

What apps do you think do UI well that you would hold up as a counterpoint here? Just curious

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by dom96 »

atyppo wrote: post #117
paradoxyl wrote: post #81

As long as old.reddit.com still exists for desktop, the site is semi-usable, although the insane moderation policies and narrow ideology makes the site basically useless except for niche reddits. Though I have gone from a daily user years back to maybe once a month. It's that bad. On mobile, I can still read direct links to reddit posts that crop up on HN using Firefox for Android. Can't say same for the Twitter, whi…

Reddit conveniently unchecks the “redirect me to old Reddit” button every ~6 months. Quite annoying. I’ve been using Reddit for ~8-9 years and it’s gotten palpably worse. I knew it was dying the first time I saw an emoji on there. Seems they want to go the way Digg did.

Strange. I never had that happen. Are you logged in to Reddit?

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by kfoley »

atyppo wrote: post #117
paradoxyl wrote: post #81

As long as old.reddit.com still exists for desktop, the site is semi-usable, although the insane moderation policies and narrow ideology makes the site basically useless except for niche reddits. Though I have gone from a daily user years back to maybe once a month. It's that bad. On mobile, I can still read direct links to reddit posts that crop up on HN using Firefox for Android. Can't say same for the Twitter, whi…

Reddit conveniently unchecks the “redirect me to old Reddit” button every ~6 months. Quite annoying. I’ve been using Reddit for ~8-9 years and it’s gotten palpably worse. I knew it was dying the first time I saw an emoji on there. Seems they want to go the way Digg did.

There are extensions that will automatically redirect you. I use this one [0] for Firefox and haven't had any issues.

[0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re...

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by lapcat »

interestica wrote: post #94
lapcat wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Subtracting external quoted links, the entire story is 4 paragraphs. It's just a wrapper around those links.

Ok? That's the point though. It collects a bunch of external sources in one spot that are all related to the same issue -- and provides the context. A really great way to get a handle on the wider implications. And the initial HN submission you linked to, "Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing" -- does that in any way allude to its content?

> That's the point though. It collects a bunch of external sources in one spot that are all related to the same issue -- and provides the context.

You're missing the point, which is that this submission is just the latest in a long string of duplicate submissions, some of which have already been marked [dupe] by the moderators.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36142285

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36142418

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36143308

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36144763

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36147252

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36147411

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36150373

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36151713

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36152476

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36159487

> And the initial HN submission you linked to, "Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing" -- does that in any way allude to its content?

It's literally the link quoted by "The creator of Apollo has done the math, and says"

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by Arkhaine_kupo »

shigawire wrote: post #77
lawn wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I follow subreddits related to topics I'm interested in and I scroll through posts looking for interesting things. I then read the post/click the link and read comments and maybe make a comment once in a while. I'd imagine that's quite mainstream, no? (Of course I use old.reddit or a third-party client.)

I think they want you to use it like people use Instagram. Endless scrolling, endless engagement

That used to be the case, but they heavily slowed down the site (back in the day the front page was different every hour, it now changes like once a day or so)

What they want is lots of comments and little to no nfsw. Aka the metrics that are easy to sell to advertisers and to IPO with.

You can see every action taken through the lense of "does it affect IPO price" and understand almost all their choices. And because it is so transparent, its almost offensive when you consider their entire moderation happens with free workforce. All the mods see 0 benefit from the increased traffic, increase polarization and stalled content refresh that the website pushes, they get more work, less tools and more abuse but the IPO price is gonna make the owners rich

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by rchaud »

paradoxyl wrote: post #81

As long as old.reddit.com still exists for desktop, the site is semi-usable, although the insane moderation policies and narrow ideology makes the site basically useless except for niche reddits. Though I have gone from a daily user years back to maybe once a month. It's that bad. On mobile, I can still read direct links to reddit posts that crop up on HN using Firefox for Android. Can't say same for the Twitter, whi…

On the contrary, Reddit is one of the most useful sites out there. With Google search nearing total uselessness for local information, using "site:reddit.com" is almost obligatory.

None of the real value of Reddit is coming from the parts of it that resemble Twitter or 4Chan.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by fumar »

retube wrote: post #48
lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

They recently killed the .compact view on mobile. The default is unreadable, i don't spend much time on the site anymore.

What is an alternative?
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