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Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by jerpint »

lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

If you go to the front page without logging in, you’ll quickly notice the target demographic is teens/young adults. The redesign makes a lot more sense with that context

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by frozenlettuce »

lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

It's on purpose. The new UI places each post inside a "card". The intent is having you scroll past cards. This makes even text-only posts be similar to image ads posts, and while you scroll you are not aware if the next card is an ad or not.

Layouts with heavy information density (as old.reddit.com) are more user friendly, as you they allow you to just scan the list and be done with it. But are bad for ads.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by standing_user »

fabian_shipamax wrote: post #27
lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

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It depends on the definition of fine tho

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by rglullis »

plagiarist wrote: post #18
chwilson wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

app.net[1] tried this in the early 2010s, unfortunately most people (i.e. enough people to justify running the service) wouldn't pony up. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App.net

Wasn't that $50? That was kindof a silly amount of money for the state of the internet and the size of the platform.

The amount doesn't really matter.

As a thought experiment: how big would the network have to be for you to start considering paying for access?

The Fediverse (Mastodon, Misskey, Pixelfed, etc) is already clocking in at around ~10M users. How much do you think it would be a "reasonable" amount for a service provider to charge for an account?

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by lawn »

jerpint wrote: post #31
lawn wrote: post #17

I don't understand how a popular product like Reddit has so atrociously bad UI. The site itself is just garbage and the difference between the redesign and old.reddit is just so jarring, and the Android client is also garbage. Are there people who even thinks these designs are good? How do you even end up with something like this? Is it just garbage requirements thrown out by clueless managers? There must be some for…

If you go to the front page without logging in, you’ll quickly notice the target demographic is teens/young adults. The redesign makes a lot more sense with that context

Do you imply that teens/young adults don't care about usability? Or that they don't have the attention span to read comments and just want to endlessly scroll through crap?

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by c7DJTLrn »

tremere wrote: post #8

Reddit is past its expiration date anyway and I'm surprised no one has created a challenger site. Perhaps this was due to Reddit's friendliness toward programmatic access but it seems they are taking that away. This is a good opportunity to create a new community, and essentially take back messaging from the corporations (let's be real about what reddit is) and put it back into the hands of the people.

There have been challengers, but they're always swarmed by undesirable vagrants kicked off of reddit.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by fathyb »

bazmattaz wrote: post #21
tremere wrote: post #8

Reddit is past its expiration date anyway and I'm surprised no one has created a challenger site. Perhaps this was due to Reddit's friendliness toward programmatic access but it seems they are taking that away. This is a good opportunity to create a new community, and essentially take back messaging from the corporations (let's be real about what reddit is) and put it back into the hands of the people.

I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily past it’s expiration date. It’s ranked 6th most trafficked sites in the US. I do think that Reddit could do with a massive overhaul. If I was ceo tomorrow I would; - Install a bunch of new teams to focus on solving real problems for users - understand user pain points with the UX. why were people using third party apps? And fix the experience. Invest in better mobile apps - invest in s…

> understand user pain points with the UX. why were people using third party apps?

Mostly ads, are you going to remove that? How are you going to explain the revenue loss to the board?

> invest in some PR or similar to change peoples view of what Reddit is

They already do that, maybe you'd like to increase the PR budget? It might be tricky with the ad revenue loss.

> try to understand why users like Twitter how Reddit could attract those users over to Reddit to post content

They also already do that, the whole redesign with individual comments taking 240px height and user avatars are the result of that.

I'm not saying the executive team cannot do better, but doing it without getting kicked out is incredibly hard.

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by sphars »

madeofpalk wrote: post #11
spacephysics wrote: post #7

The app is complete garbage, and the dark patterns on their mobile webpage are insidious. If I have to wait to go to my desktop to see something on reddit, most likely I’ll forget about it and not visit at all. Or I’ll go through the old.reddit on mobile which isn’t great. But it’s only a matter of time until they remove old.reddit. Perhaps web scrapers can come to the rescue in some way? Maybe a self-hosted instance…

It would just be "better" to call the private/internal APIs that reddit's clients use themselves. This is more or less what Nitter does for providing alternate twitter frontend https://github.com/zedeus/nitter

Like nitter, there is Teddit and Libreddit, which are both alternative (read-only) frontends for reddit

Teddit: https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit

Libreddit: https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit

Re: Third-party Reddit apps are being crushed by price increases

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Post by exitb »

lawn wrote: post #35
jerpint wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you go to the front page without logging in, you’ll quickly notice the target demographic is teens/young adults. The redesign makes a lot more sense with that context

Do you imply that teens/young adults don't care about usability? Or that they don't have the attention span to read comments and just want to endlessly scroll through crap?

Yes, it enables endless scrolling, serving an ad once in a while.
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